The Way Forward

CBHagman

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70. And the first time, he lost the popular vote...

Sun May 17, 2026, 10:29 PM

8 hrs ago

...and the second time he won the popular vote, but more than half the electorate voted for someone else.

I know Trump likes to go around claiming he has won three elections by landslides, but there have been no recent landslides in U.S. presidential elections. President Biden won both the popular and electoral college votes, and he did get more than 50% of the popular vote, as did President Obama in both 2008 and 2012, but you have to go back to 1984 and 1972 to find cases where a presidential ticket got at least 58% of the popular vote. Generally the winning ticket gets less than 50% of the popular vote.

I bring all this up because even though we're all stuck with the results of presidential elections, they aren't blowouts and the unexpected can happen. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won more than 81 million votes. No one else has done that.

Anyway, I am posting the link to the statistics page on the American Presidency Project website because it offers some perspective.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections

And aside from that, I am interested in looking into how we get more civic education and more voter participation.

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Can our country ever elect a woman POTUS? [View all] CTyankee May 2025 OP

Only if we flush Fox down the toilet! Initech May 2025 #1

we absolutely can (and WILL, at some point) stopdiggin May 2025 #2

Seems to me like this is the consensus. Janbdwl72 May 2025 #3

I believe we just did... returnee May 2025 #4

Why are Democrats still polling behind the worst president in history? Isn't it possible we are failing in messaging Doodley May 2025 #6

One of the the reasons I think it was stolen... returnee May 2025 #11

down ballot races where a man was running? RandomNumbers Oct 2025 #42

So do I ailsagirl May 2025 #15

Yes. Doodley May 2025 #5

I think the US can eventually elect a female POTUS. Laffy Kat May 2025 #7

Yeah, same here. calimary May 2025 #14

I'm in New Jersey and I'm uncertain that WE can elect a female GOVERNOR. no_hypocrisy May 2025 #8

The only way America will ever elect a woman president... ultralite001 May 2025 #9

this shows registrations not who actually showed up ... I always think that is the bigger issue no shows JT45242 Aug 2025 #31

Not any time soon PJMcK May 2025 #10

In a sense, we did. subterranean May 2025 #12

Two possibilities: usonian May 2025 #13

I was thinking about this yesterday pinkstarburst May 2025 #16

well, misogyny anyway - Barack Obama was elected twice - TBF May 2025 #18

Probably, unfortunately no Canada Kid May 2025 #17

We have already been ready to elect a woman. CBHagman May 2025 #19

It sure would help if the Dems had a little marketing moxie. Gum Logger May 2025 #20

We already did, by popular vote somsai Aug 2025 #21

YES... ultralite001 Aug 2025 #22

Yes. Hillary would have won in 2008 without any doubt. speak easy Aug 2025 #23

I'm still bitter that she didn't Polybius Apr 4 #64

For Democratic women to be elected president, Gum Logger Aug 2025 #24

OR by succeeding to the Presidency as VP when a male POTUS dies, becomes incapacitated or resigns. CTyankee Aug 2025 #25

Nope JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #26

"women can't be Presidents," a religiously insane Lutheran told me a few months ago. CTyankee Aug 2025 #28

I'm just sick of this country JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #33

A Republican woman may be the first woman President andym Aug 2025 #27

Not with this republican party. Maybe things will change tho. CTyankee Aug 2025 #29

Definitely not in the foreseeable future calguy Aug 2025 #30

Four of my five grandchildren are old enough to vote and I'm looking to their generation to get us back on the right CTyankee Aug 2025 #32

Who should the candidate be? SandyDoc Aug 2025 #34

Pick one. The field is pretty open just now. I'd like to know your suggestion! CTyankee Aug 2025 #36

No. Misogyny is far too ingrained in our society Bettie Aug 2025 #35

What? And risk catching up with Mexico? Paladin Aug 2025 #37

Qualified? somsai Aug 2025 #38

After reading your post it makes me kinda sick that we have women who met every qualification you can list and STILL CTyankee Aug 2025 #39

Because JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #40

Of course it can. thought crime Sep 2025 #41

Racist,, misogynist men (and some women) won't vote for such a ticket. CTyankee Oct 2025 #43

Yes, and I think it might happen sooner than many of us think. Borogove Nov 2025 #44

I hope you are right and I am wrong. CTyankee Nov 2025 #45

We used to wonder if we could ever elect a black President. As for a woman, we can and we will. I may not live to... NNadir Dec 2025 #46

Much of my mom's side of the family lived till their mid 90's with clear minds, even ... electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #47

I'd love that, but.... JustKay Dec 2025 #48

One thing is certain: we surely won't if we don't keep trying and give up. CTyankee Dec 2025 #49

And the first time, he lost the popular vote... CBHagman 8 hrs ago #70

Yes. lees1975 Dec 2025 #50

Ever? Of course. regnaD kciN Dec 2025 #51

Eventually but probably not in my lifetime. LoisB Dec 2025 #52

I don't think we can KT2000 Dec 2025 #53

Give it 20 years. Right now? Not a chance awesomerwb1 Dec 2025 #54

I say, without a doubt... Mike Nelson Dec 2025 #55

I fear not. QueerDuck Jan 2026 #56

As far as I am concerned, WE DID!!!! DFW Feb 2026 #57

You are correct! CTyankee Feb 2026 #58

I believe we will elect a woman in my lifetime (I'm 44) EdmondDantes_ Feb 17 #59

He's pretty low key but that's GOOD! Just the opposite of batshit crazy Trump a and his gang of crazies and thugs. CTyankee Feb 17 #60

No. Millions of people, especially men, think women cannot lead. valleyrogue Apr 1 #61

I don't think it would take that long. My guess would be in my grandkids lifetime. CTyankee Apr 3 #62

Our best chance was in 2008 Polybius Apr 4 #63

Why wouldn't we get Trump? CTyankee Apr 5 #65

In that alternate timeline, the only small chance for Trump would have been in 2012 Polybius Apr 5 #66

Yes. Sparkly Apr 29 #67

Kamala Harris'problem was unique. Her expectation was as VP. CTyankee Apr 30 #68

Yes, and she was an excellent candidate, imho! Sparkly Apr 30 #69