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In reply to the discussion: SpaceX valued at just $780 billion by Morningstar, less than half its IPO target [View all]pat_k
(14,062 posts)26. The felon shoveling hundreds of millions of our tax dollars at the Mag 10 is propping things up.
The incestuous circular deals are sure reminiscent of the dot com bubble.

This all-in bet on AI that is the American economy is incredibly fragile, however you look at it. Particularly when you add in the fact that our economy relies on spending by the wealthiest. The problem with decimating the middle class is that relying on the wealthiest spending lots is dicey. The minute things start going south, they can cut way back, sending the economy into a death spiral.
https://www.profgalloway.com/how-does-the-end-begin/
The top 10 stocks in the S&P 500 account for 40% of the indexs market cap. Since ChatGPT launched in November 2022, AI-related stocks have registered 75% of S&P 500 returns, 80% of earnings growth, and 90% of capital spending growth. Meanwhile, AI investments accounted for nearly 92% of the U.S. GDP growth this year. Without those AI investments, Harvard economist Jason Furman noted, growth would be flat. As Ruchir Sharma concluded in the Financial Times, America is now one big bet on AI, adding, AI better deliver for the U.S., or its economy and markets will lose the one leg they are now standing on. This concentration creates fragility, and how the end begins becomes more visible.
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If Mag 10 valuations are cut in half, the S&P and global markets would decline by 20% and 10%, respectively. In the U.S., the immediate impact would be felt by the wealthiest 10%, who own 87% of the stocks. Those households wont struggle to pay their bills, but they may be the tail of the whip on the economy, as wealthy households have the luxury of decreasing their spending dramatically, vs. middle-class households, who spend the majority of their income on basics. If the top 10%, who account for half the consumer spending in the U.S., hit the brakes, the nation gets whiplash. I estimate that if the wealthy see their portfolios drop by 20%, we could see a 2-3% decline in GDP. For context: From peak to trough, the Great Recession registered a 4.3% drop in GDP.
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If Mag 10 valuations are cut in half, the S&P and global markets would decline by 20% and 10%, respectively. In the U.S., the immediate impact would be felt by the wealthiest 10%, who own 87% of the stocks. Those households wont struggle to pay their bills, but they may be the tail of the whip on the economy, as wealthy households have the luxury of decreasing their spending dramatically, vs. middle-class households, who spend the majority of their income on basics. If the top 10%, who account for half the consumer spending in the U.S., hit the brakes, the nation gets whiplash. I estimate that if the wealthy see their portfolios drop by 20%, we could see a 2-3% decline in GDP. For context: From peak to trough, the Great Recession registered a 4.3% drop in GDP.
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SpaceX valued at just $780 billion by Morningstar, less than half its IPO target [View all]
question everything
19 hrs ago
OP
stupid piece of crap is only 'worth' a few 100 million. Everything else is HYPE. don't fall for it !!
dave99
19 hrs ago
#1
If Starlink income wasn't swamped by xAI losses it might be a decent investment.
pat_k
14 hrs ago
#13
Trump said his shit "company" was worth at least $100 at it's IPO all those years
Bengus81
4 hrs ago
#31
Musk is counting on irrational exuberance among his cult followers to keep early demand high for the stock
muriel_volestrangler
19 hrs ago
#2
Over the last year I have backed out of all my large-cap and index-tracking funds.
paulkienitz
13 hrs ago
#17
Who could have known that there was a massive downside risk to being hyperpartisan and nationalist
Prairie Gates
17 hrs ago
#7
And Elon Musk owns approx. 42% of Space X, so his net worth will increase by $750 billion and send him...
OGBuzz
15 hrs ago
#10
The felon shoveling hundreds of millions of our tax dollars at the Mag 10 is propping things up.
pat_k
9 hrs ago
#26
Well maybe if Muskrat should fix the issue of his rockets exploding..................
turbinetree
13 hrs ago
#14