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pat_k

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26. The felon shoveling hundreds of millions of our tax dollars at the Mag 10 is propping things up.
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 03:48 AM
9 hrs ago

The incestuous circular deals are sure reminiscent of the dot com bubble.



This all-in bet on AI that is the American economy is incredibly fragile, however you look at it. Particularly when you add in the fact that our economy relies on spending by the wealthiest. The problem with decimating the middle class is that relying on the wealthiest spending lots is dicey. The minute things start going south, they can cut way back, sending the economy into a death spiral.

https://www.profgalloway.com/how-does-the-end-begin/

The top 10 stocks in the S&P 500 account for 40% of the index’s market cap. Since ChatGPT launched in November 2022, AI-related stocks have registered 75% of S&P 500 returns, 80% of earnings growth, and 90% of capital spending growth. Meanwhile, AI investments accounted for nearly 92% of the U.S. GDP growth this year. Without those AI investments, Harvard economist Jason Furman noted, growth would be flat. As Ruchir Sharma concluded in the Financial Times, “America is now one big bet on AI,” adding, “AI better deliver for the U.S., or its economy and markets will lose the one leg they are now standing on.” This concentration creates fragility, and how the end begins becomes more visible.
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If Mag 10 valuations are cut in half, the S&P and global markets would decline by 20% and 10%, respectively. In the U.S., the immediate impact would be felt by the wealthiest 10%, who own 87% of the stocks. Those households won’t struggle to pay their bills, but they may be the tail of the whip on the economy, as wealthy households have the luxury of decreasing their spending dramatically, vs. middle-class households, who spend the majority of their income on basics. If the top 10%, who account for half the consumer spending in the U.S., hit the brakes, the nation gets whiplash. I estimate that if the wealthy see their portfolios drop by 20%, we could see a 2-3% decline in GDP. For context: From peak to trough, the Great Recession registered a 4.3% drop in GDP.
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stupid piece of crap is only 'worth' a few 100 million. Everything else is HYPE. don't fall for it !! dave99 19 hrs ago #1
"only 'worth' a few 100 million" EX500rider 18 hrs ago #4
revenue -- final line ? dave99 18 hrs ago #6
If Starlink income wasn't swamped by xAI losses it might be a decent investment. pat_k 14 hrs ago #13
Their revenue is less than their expenses. Shipwack 11 hrs ago #22
Trump said his shit "company" was worth at least $100 at it's IPO all those years Bengus81 4 hrs ago #31
Musk is counting on irrational exuberance among his cult followers to keep early demand high for the stock muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #2
Over the last year I have backed out of all my large-cap and index-tracking funds. paulkienitz 13 hrs ago #17
The forced Nasdaq buying sure looks like a scam flamingdem 11 hrs ago #20
Lots of competition in Space Exploration bucolic_frolic 19 hrs ago #3
I doubt even that makes sense. Nt BootinUp 18 hrs ago #5
Who could have known that there was a massive downside risk to being hyperpartisan and nationalist Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #7
I hate that the SpaceX piece of shit will probably be added to my XMAG ETF. pat_k 17 hrs ago #8
$60 to $70 billion tops WSHazel 16 hrs ago #9
And Elon Musk owns approx. 42% of Space X, so his net worth will increase by $750 billion and send him... OGBuzz 15 hrs ago #10
i think teh IPO will mark a market top moonshinegnomie 15 hrs ago #11
Wouldn't nvidia be the beneficiary of Space X success? flamingdem 11 hrs ago #21
The felon shoveling hundreds of millions of our tax dollars at the Mag 10 is propping things up. pat_k 9 hrs ago #26
it may be moonshinegnomie 4 hrs ago #32
Can SpaceX install data centers in space on Elon's timeline? eringer 14 hrs ago #12
There is no good business case for data centers in space. paulkienitz 13 hrs ago #16
Environmental Issues Must be Overcome eringer 12 hrs ago #18
There is no way you can make the math work paulkienitz 10 hrs ago #24
Lots of technical reasons against it happening, too. Shipwack 11 hrs ago #23
Agree that the problems seem insurmountable eringer 8 hrs ago #28
How many times have Elon's timelines been met? LudwigPastorius 12 hrs ago #19
...like they're making "short work" of the Starship? paulkienitz 10 hrs ago #25
Well maybe if Muskrat should fix the issue of his rockets exploding.................. turbinetree 13 hrs ago #14
Musk's rockets don't explode, they experience unscheduled rapid disassembly pat_k 8 hrs ago #27
And taxpayers are paying for this exploding stuff............I wouldn't trust this device for moon exploration turbinetree 3 hrs ago #34
Morningstar is being wildly optimistic. paulkienitz 13 hrs ago #15
My 23 year old Mercedes is worth at least forty million dollars. twodogsbarking 5 hrs ago #29
and looks like barbtries 4 hrs ago #30
Our tax dollars at work. Emile 3 hrs ago #33
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