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In reply to the discussion: Judge strikes down Trump's $15 billion suit against the New York Times [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)24. MaddowBlog-Judge rejects Trump's case against The New York Times, tells lawyers to rewrite it
Last edited Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)
Like a teacher telling a student to redo his homework, a federal court told the presidents lawyers to file a less ridiculous document.
Weâre gonna need a bigger bottle of ketchup. Judge rejects Trumpâs case against The New York Times, tells lawyers to rewrite it www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— (@hairgae.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:36:39.308Z
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-rejects-trump-new-york-times-case-rcna232429
About a week ago, for reasons that were not altogether clear, Donald Trump threatened to sue The New York Times. As it turns out, he wasnt kidding: Earlier this week, the president and his lawyers filed a $15 billion civil suit (thats not a typo) against the newspaper, claiming the Times had defamed him and tried to ruin his reputation.
Four days later, a federal judge rejected the case but not on the merits. Reuters reported:
,,,,,,The judges reaction was understandable. Putting aside every other consideration the White Houses unprecedented offensive against the free press, the absurd dollar amount, the fact that the newspaper doesnt appear to have done anything wrong, the unsettling frequency with which Trump files civil suits that seem awfully frivolous, et al. the actual legal document filed with the federal court in Florida was an 85-page joke.
Reading it, I felt a little embarrassed for the lawyers who were responsible for producing it. The complaint (Im using the word loosely) included random Trump-related images that seemed to have been included for no apparent reason. It described in unnecessary detail assorted television and film appearances the president made before his political career, as well as his role in beauty pageants......
That was true, though Merryday clearly wasnt amused. Judges tend to prefer serious legal documents to self-indulgent public relations presentations. In fact, Merrydays smackdown was so brutal that Politicos Kyle Cheney noted that the judge called Trumps court filing essentially garbage.
In a court order dripping with disdain, Merryday wrote: As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective not a protected platform to rage against an adversary. A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers Corner.
]A complaint is a mechanism to fairly, precisely, directly, soberly, and economically inform the defendants in a professionally constrained manner consistent with the dignity of the adversarial process in an Article III court of the United States of the nature and content of the claims. A complaint is a short, plain, direct statement of allegations of fact sufficient to create a facially plausible claim for relief and sufficient to permit the formulation of an informed response. Although lawyers receive a modicum of expressive latitude in pleading the claim of a client, the complaint in this action extends far beyond the outer bound of that latitude.
Four days later, a federal judge rejected the case but not on the merits. Reuters reported:
A federal judge on Friday struck Donald Trumps $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the New York Times. U.S. District Judge Steven Merryday said Trump violated a federal procedural rule requiring a short and plain statement of why he deserves relief, and that a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective or a protected platform to rage against an adversary.
,,,,,,The judges reaction was understandable. Putting aside every other consideration the White Houses unprecedented offensive against the free press, the absurd dollar amount, the fact that the newspaper doesnt appear to have done anything wrong, the unsettling frequency with which Trump files civil suits that seem awfully frivolous, et al. the actual legal document filed with the federal court in Florida was an 85-page joke.
Reading it, I felt a little embarrassed for the lawyers who were responsible for producing it. The complaint (Im using the word loosely) included random Trump-related images that seemed to have been included for no apparent reason. It described in unnecessary detail assorted television and film appearances the president made before his political career, as well as his role in beauty pageants......
That was true, though Merryday clearly wasnt amused. Judges tend to prefer serious legal documents to self-indulgent public relations presentations. In fact, Merrydays smackdown was so brutal that Politicos Kyle Cheney noted that the judge called Trumps court filing essentially garbage.
In a court order dripping with disdain, Merryday wrote: As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective not a protected platform to rage against an adversary. A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers Corner.
]A complaint is a mechanism to fairly, precisely, directly, soberly, and economically inform the defendants in a professionally constrained manner consistent with the dignity of the adversarial process in an Article III court of the United States of the nature and content of the claims. A complaint is a short, plain, direct statement of allegations of fact sufficient to create a facially plausible claim for relief and sufficient to permit the formulation of an informed response. Although lawyers receive a modicum of expressive latitude in pleading the claim of a client, the complaint in this action extends far beyond the outer bound of that latitude.
Has trump responded to this ruling yet?
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Judge strikes down Trump's $15 billion suit against the New York Times [View all]
LetMyPeopleVote
Friday
OP
A federal judge just sumamrily struck Trump's complaint against the New York Times, calling it, essentially, garbage
LetMyPeopleVote
Friday
#1
NYT didn't even file a motion to strike the complaint. The judge acted sua sponte.
rsdsharp
Friday
#27
What is your prediction, does trump replead or appeal to the 11th Circuit and then to SCOTUS?
LetMyPeopleVote
Friday
#23
It's not an appealable order. They will have to refile their complaint in compliance with Rule 8
Ocelot II
Friday
#25
If the revised complaint isn't cleaned up, the lawyers are subject to sanctions -
Ocelot II
Friday
#33
He will re-file consistent with the court's decision. I still think he'll lose on the merits.
onenote
Friday
#18
Yes. But the judge would've ignored most of that shit anyway. It was only included to stroke Trump's ego
onenote
Friday
#38
Exactly. But getting the judge to pay attention to it was never the point of the crap
onenote
Friday
#37
Why wouldn't he? He'll just publicly say that all that crap was part of his lawsuit.
onenote
Friday
#41
MaddowBlog-Judge rejects Trump's case against The New York Times, tells lawyers to rewrite it
LetMyPeopleVote
Friday
#24