Judge strikes down Trump's $15 billion suit against the New York Times
Source: Washington Post
A federal judge in Tampa struck down President Donald Trumps defamation lawsuit against the New York Times, saying that the 85-page complaint was decidedly improper and impermissible under the rules governing civil proceedings in federal court.
U.S. District Judge Steven D. Merryday, an appointee of President George H.W. Bush, issued a scathing ruling on Friday, lambasting the president and his lawyers for their complaint.
In this action, a prominent American citizen (perhaps the most prominent American citizen) alleges defamation by a prominent American newspaper publisher (perhaps the most prominent American newspaper publisher) and by several other corporate and natural persons, he wrote. Alleging only two simple counts of defamation, the complaint consumes eighty-five pages. Count I appears on page eighty, and Count II appears on page eighty-three....
In addition to the legal issues at hand, Merryday bemoaned the writing.
The reader of the complaint must labor through allegations, such as a new journalistic low for the hopelessly compromised and tarnished Gray Lady.' The reader must endure an allegation of the desperate need to defame with a partisan spear rather than report with an authentic looking glass and an allegation that the false narrative about The Apprentice was just the tip of Defendants melting iceberg of falsehoods.
The judge said every lawyer should know that a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective and not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers Corner.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/09/19/judge-strikes-down-trumps-15-billion-suit-against-new-york-times
Judge strikes down Trumpâs billion suit against the New York Times
— JJ's Bucket Hat (not Rodney) (@mrtriskaideka.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:30:10.810Z
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LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)dweller
(27,128 posts)
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Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)If anyone wants to read this Truth Social post disguised as a lawsuit, here's the complaint in all its absurd glory: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flmd.447437/gov.uscourts.flmd.447437.1.0.pdf I feel like I lost a few IQ points just reading that mess. It's basically a blowjob on paper, extolling the brilliance and perfection and sheer genius of Dear Leader for about 75 pages. But I also flashed back to my federal civil procedure class, and made mental notes as to the many violations of the rules of pleading in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to be found in this verbal dungheap. Let's start with Rule 8, which says that a complaint is to include "a short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief." There's nothing short or plain about this statement. And: "Each allegation must be simple, concise, and direct. No technical form is required." I didn't see anything simple, concise or direct; the whole thing, complete with photographs, is just a big fat whine about how unfair NYT's reporting was. They claim actual malice, a requirement for a defamation claim against a public figure (this isn't NYT's first rodeo; the actual malice principle came from the landmark case of New York Times v. Sullivan). But Trump's crack team of lawyers doesn't seem to understand what actual malice means in this context - not personal malice or hatred, but the publication of a statement while knowing it was false or with reckless disregard for its truth or falsity. Nothing Trump complains about is factual - it's all opinion, which is protected speech. He just complains that NYT and its reporters hate him and it's so unfair that they don't recognize his genius.
He's trying to extort money from NYT the way he did from CBS. This is SO bad, though, that NYT's lawyers, once they've stopped laughing, should file a Rule 11 motion - sanctions for filing a court document without a reasonable basis in law or fact. But read the thing if you didn't just have lunch.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)It appears that NYT has NOT even filed an answer yet. I am not a litigator but this seems to be unusual.
tinymontgomery
(2,838 posts)If they can NYT should file against him and everyone else that he goes after should also if possible.
rsdsharp
(11,310 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,838 posts)Somebody above mentioned they can file some kind of motion.
rsdsharp
(11,310 posts)after a reasonable inquiry, be based on facts, supported by evidence, by current law, or a nonfrivolous argument to change the law, and NOT intended to harass, delay or cause unnecessary expense (Trumps MO).
The Court has given Trumps attorneys 28 days to redraft and refilevthe Complaint to bring it into compliance with Rule 8, which requires a short plain statement of the facts supporting the claim. If, after the refiling, the Complaint is still prolix, the Times could move for sanctions against Trumps lawyers, and/or Trump himself. Those sanctions could include attorney fees, fines or dismissal of the case.
The Court itself could also issue an order on its own to show cause why sanctions shouldnt be entered. Given that the judge has already acted on his own, without the Times asking him to, that last point is particularly important.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)At first, I was sure that trump and his idiot attorneys would replead. However, this case was never going to go to trial because that would mean that trump would have to be deposed. trump is a horrible witness in depositions. If the purpose of this lawsuit was to get publicity, then appealing this ruling to the 11th Circuit and then to SCOTUS would get trump the publicity that he craves without the risk of being deposed. The original petition in this case was so horrible that the plan may have been to in effect try to force the judge to ask for this type of ruling. I had trouble going through this pleading because it was so bad. It takes work to generate this bad of pleading.
What is your prediction?
Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)or drop the case. If the revised complaint doesn't comply it's Rule 11 time.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)Judge says US presidents complaint that the newspaper is spreading false content about him violates federal rule
Judge strikes down Trumpâs bn lawsuit against the New York Times
— The Guardian (@theguardian.com) 2025-09-19T16:19:37Z
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/19/trump-nyt-lawsuit-judge-ruling
The judge in the case said that Trumps complaint violated a federal rule requiring a short plain statement of the claim in an attempt to demonstrate that the plaintiff deserves relief.
Trump launched the massive lawsuit earlier this week accusing the major US publication of being a mouthpiece for the Democratic party and of spreading false and defamatory content about him.
On Friday the court said such a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective or a protected platform to rage against an adversary.
The filing against the Times, the latest demonstration of the presidents willingness to use legal action against the media, was made by Trumps lawyers to a district court in Florida on Monday night.
Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)This opinion is only four pages and I also urge everyone to read it
Marthe48
(21,842 posts)Thank you Judge Merryday
I'm so sick of the daily dose of elephant manure from traitor felon. I can't wait for the day when he is nothing more than an empty blivet bag.
some red ass cheeks from that!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(128,748 posts)Donny just unloaded in his Depends.
Wonder Why
(6,199 posts)Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)paying NYT's attorneys' fees, for example - and dismissal of the case, no more do-overs.
Paladin
(31,615 posts)rsdsharp
(11,310 posts)I dont think hes a good candidate, either for us, as a GHW Bush appointee, and its for damn sure Donny wont nominate him after this order.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,246 posts)He should be sanctioned for filing this frivolous lawsuit to begin with.
onenote
(45,668 posts)Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)a huge pile of laudatory bullshit?
I'd have been so embarrassed to sign my name to that mess.
onenote
(45,668 posts)will show up in attachments that don't count against the 40 page limit set by the judge.
From the opinion: The amended complaint must not exceed forty pages, excluding only the caption, the signature, and any attachment
Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)and other irrelevant material, the court is free to ignore them, and almost certainly will.
onenote
(45,668 posts)and including it in attachments will serve that purpose as well.
Aristus
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ificandream
(11,369 posts)He had predicted the suit would be thrown out in a month or so. Glad it was much sooner. That's the way it should have been. Now I hope he gets hit with penalties for this completely dumb lawsuit.
Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)and his pathetic lawyers that they have to refile the complaint in accordance with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. If they file another pile of garbage like that one, however, the lawyers can be sanctioned and the whole case dismissed.
ificandream
(11,369 posts)I read the story and then got the judges order. Trumps still using dime store lawyers, I see.
PatSeg
(50,955 posts)85 pages? Reminds me of writing long, wordy essays in school hoping the teacher won't notice that you didn't really say much of anything. Merryday ain't falling for that crap!
reACTIONary
(6,712 posts)... and not more than a page or two in was overcome and fatigued from rolling on the floor laughing and shaking my head. Then I noticed it was 85 pages.... I knew I would never make it to the end alive, so I called it quits.
PatSeg
(50,955 posts)I can imagine Merryday's reaction.
elleng
(140,797 posts)The judge in the case said that Trumps complaint violated a federal rule requiring a short plain statement.
onenote
(45,668 posts)While the case eventually should, and hopefully will, be dismissed on the merits, the judge's ruling isn't all that significant.
First, it was dismissed without prejudice on a technical procedural ground.
Second, Trump was given time to re-file a more condensed version of the complaint -- 40 pages instead of 85 -- but attachments to the complaint won't count against the page limit so I expect a lot of the material dropped from the complaint to show up in attachments.
Third, the judge was quite clear and emphatic that the decision did not concern the merits of the complaint.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)Trump probably insisted that the lawyers include that garbage again and he'll have a big mad if they don't do it.
onenote
(45,668 posts)I expect Trump will get a lot of the shit that had to be pulled out of the complaint into attachments to the complaint.
Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)they can attach all the crap they want, and the judge can ignore the crap.
onenote
(45,668 posts)It was satisfying Trump's ego. So having it in the record, even as an attachment, will do tht.
Ocelot II
(127,242 posts)with attachments if the over-the-top ass-kissing is removed from the body of the complaint. When I read that complaint I just cringed; couldn't imagine signing such a ridiculous document. When I was practicing law a few millennia ago I saw pro se complaints filed by truly crazy people that made more sense than that one.
onenote
(45,668 posts)And who is going to correct him?
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)I love the fact that trump did not plead actual malice but this strange concept of "actual malice ... in the colloquial sense"
Link to tweet

Oeditpus Rex
(42,747 posts)Cool.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)
Like a teacher telling a student to redo his homework, a federal court told the presidents lawyers to file a less ridiculous document.
Weâre gonna need a bigger bottle of ketchup. Judge rejects Trumpâs case against The New York Times, tells lawyers to rewrite it www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— (@hairgae.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:36:39.308Z
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-rejects-trump-new-york-times-case-rcna232429
Four days later, a federal judge rejected the case but not on the merits. Reuters reported:
A federal judge on Friday struck Donald Trumps $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the New York Times. U.S. District Judge Steven Merryday said Trump violated a federal procedural rule requiring a short and plain statement of why he deserves relief, and that a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective or a protected platform to rage against an adversary.
,,,,,,The judges reaction was understandable. Putting aside every other consideration the White Houses unprecedented offensive against the free press, the absurd dollar amount, the fact that the newspaper doesnt appear to have done anything wrong, the unsettling frequency with which Trump files civil suits that seem awfully frivolous, et al. the actual legal document filed with the federal court in Florida was an 85-page joke.
Reading it, I felt a little embarrassed for the lawyers who were responsible for producing it. The complaint (Im using the word loosely) included random Trump-related images that seemed to have been included for no apparent reason. It described in unnecessary detail assorted television and film appearances the president made before his political career, as well as his role in beauty pageants......
That was true, though Merryday clearly wasnt amused. Judges tend to prefer serious legal documents to self-indulgent public relations presentations. In fact, Merrydays smackdown was so brutal that Politicos Kyle Cheney noted that the judge called Trumps court filing essentially garbage.
In a court order dripping with disdain, Merryday wrote: As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective not a protected platform to rage against an adversary. A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers Corner.
]A complaint is a mechanism to fairly, precisely, directly, soberly, and economically inform the defendants in a professionally constrained manner consistent with the dignity of the adversarial process in an Article III court of the United States of the nature and content of the claims. A complaint is a short, plain, direct statement of allegations of fact sufficient to create a facially plausible claim for relief and sufficient to permit the formulation of an informed response. Although lawyers receive a modicum of expressive latitude in pleading the claim of a client, the complaint in this action extends far beyond the outer bound of that latitude.
Has trump responded to this ruling yet?
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,885 posts)Denial is not just a river in Africa
Link to tweet
A judge just threw that out. 🎯
TRUMP: Well, Im winning Youre guilty ABC is terrible, unfair, you should be ashamed.
(Maybe he means hes whining?)