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Ocelot II

(127,253 posts)
3. What did I tell ya?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 12:23 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20647485

If anyone wants to read this Truth Social post disguised as a lawsuit, here's the complaint in all its absurd glory: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flmd.447437/gov.uscourts.flmd.447437.1.0.pdf I feel like I lost a few IQ points just reading that mess. It's basically a blowjob on paper, extolling the brilliance and perfection and sheer genius of Dear Leader for about 75 pages. But I also flashed back to my federal civil procedure class, and made mental notes as to the many violations of the rules of pleading in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to be found in this verbal dungheap. Let's start with Rule 8, which says that a complaint is to include "a short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief." There's nothing short or plain about this statement. And: "Each allegation must be simple, concise, and direct. No technical form is required." I didn't see anything simple, concise or direct; the whole thing, complete with photographs, is just a big fat whine about how unfair NYT's reporting was. They claim actual malice, a requirement for a defamation claim against a public figure (this isn't NYT's first rodeo; the actual malice principle came from the landmark case of New York Times v. Sullivan). But Trump's crack team of lawyers doesn't seem to understand what actual malice means in this context - not personal malice or hatred, but the publication of a statement while knowing it was false or with reckless disregard for its truth or falsity. Nothing Trump complains about is factual - it's all opinion, which is protected speech. He just complains that NYT and its reporters hate him and it's so unfair that they don't recognize his genius.

He's trying to extort money from NYT the way he did from CBS. This is SO bad, though, that NYT's lawyers, once they've stopped laughing, should file a Rule 11 motion - sanctions for filing a court document without a reasonable basis in law or fact. But read the thing if you didn't just have lunch.

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A federal judge just sumamrily struck Trump's complaint against the New York Times, calling it, essentially, garbage LetMyPeopleVote Friday #1
🤔 dweller Friday #2
What did I tell ya? Ocelot II Friday #3
I share your opinion on this crap lawsuit LetMyPeopleVote Friday #5
I'm not a lawyer but I agree. tinymontgomery Friday #22
NYT didn't even file a motion to strike the complaint. The judge acted sua sponte. rsdsharp Friday #27
Again, as a non-lawyer, can NYT now go after him? tinymontgomery Friday #35
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11 requires that a pleading, rsdsharp Friday #42
What is your prediction, does trump replead or appeal to the 11th Circuit and then to SCOTUS? LetMyPeopleVote Friday #23
It's not an appealable order. They will have to refile their complaint in compliance with Rule 8 Ocelot II Friday #25
Judge strikes down Trump's $15bn lawsuit against the New York Times LetMyPeopleVote Friday #4
Read the whole order; it's glorious. Ocelot II Friday #6
I love this opinion LetMyPeopleVote Friday #7
Yes, it is Marthe48 Friday #9
spank! Kali Friday #12
Uh oh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday #8
He should charge them with contempt of court. Wonder Why Friday #10
If the revised complaint isn't cleaned up, the lawyers are subject to sanctions - Ocelot II Friday #33
Judge Merryday for U.S. Supreme Court, just as soon as possible. (nt) Paladin Friday #11
He'll be 75 in about six weeks, and already on senior status. rsdsharp Friday #39
Aww, poor Donny ain't getting his $15 Billion. ProudMNDemocrat Friday #13
He will re-file consistent with the court's decision. I still think he'll lose on the merits. onenote Friday #18
Will Trump let his lawyers file a new complaint that doesn't also include Ocelot II Friday #28
Yes. And a lot of the bullshit that will be pulled from the complaint onenote Friday #30
As long as the attachments are more stupid photos Ocelot II Friday #31
Yes. But the judge would've ignored most of that shit anyway. It was only included to stroke Trump's ego onenote Friday #38
Oh noes! Diaper Donny has a sad!... Aristus Friday #14
Was just listening to George Conway's podcast this morning about this ... ificandream Friday #15
The case hasn't been thrown out - yet - but the judge told Trump Ocelot II Friday #32
I had only seen the headline when I wrote that ificandream Friday #43
What a great name - Merryday! PatSeg Friday #16
I started to read it.... reACTIONary Friday #36
In that case, PatSeg Friday #44
"decidedly improper and impermissible" elleng Friday #17
I wouldn't get too excited about this ruling. onenote Friday #19
It is not easy to violate Rule 8 LetMyPeopleVote Friday #21
The question is whether the revised complaint will comply with Rule 8. Ocelot II Friday #26
The new page limit doesn't include attachments. onenote Friday #29
As long as Rule 8's "short and plain statement of the case" is complied with, Ocelot II Friday #34
Exactly. But getting the judge to pay attention to it was never the point of the crap onenote Friday #37
No doubt. I just wonder whether Himself will be satisfied Ocelot II Friday #40
Why wouldn't he? He'll just publicly say that all that crap was part of his lawsuit. onenote Friday #41
I hope that the next filing at least state a real cause of action LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #45
Already? Oeditpus Rex Friday #20
MaddowBlog-Judge rejects Trump's case against The New York Times, tells lawyers to rewrite it LetMyPeopleVote Friday #24
Here is trump's reaction to this ruling by the trial court LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #46
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