Are the Groypers so far right that sometimes they sound like far leftists?

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15. Right and left ideologies

consist of economic and of political components. The economic and political components do not necessarily relate to each other, i.e. you can be extreme right or extreme left and think that all citizens should get health care.

In the US there is effectively no extreme economic left. When the extreme right says extreme economic left they are referring to people and ideologies that would have been considered moderate fifty years ago.

It is also necessary to state that there are economic components to ideologies as well as
social components. In the US social and economic components are usually bundled together. This muddies the waters, but it is useful to our oiligarchs who want to lead us around with social issues which, while important to us in the hoi-polloi, most of our oiligarchs don't really care about. They keep us distracted and divided by a few dozen trans athletes so that we don't agitate for health care and job rights for all.

Over the last century social components in the US have generally moved left while economic components have moved right since about 1980.
In societies such as Russia and China the left wing economic movements were generally socially authoritarian politically since their societies had long histories of authoritarianism. The US had a large measure of anti-authoritarianism after the English king was overthrown. The anti-authoritarianism became stronger and stronger here after the plantation system was overthrown and as various groups, non-landowners, women, Asians, Native Americans were enabled to vote and to participate politically.

In other words, the authoritarianism has nothing to do with whether right or left wing views on economic issues or social issues are espoused. There is both right-wing and left-wing authoritarianism and either of those can espouse any social or economic view on the spectrum. Social views being the rights of minorities or of individuals.

In maga we have both extreme right wing economic and social ideologies, with authoritarianism.