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yardwork

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14. This is different from the 1850s.

Mon Sep 15, 2025, 08:01 AM

Sep 15

There was a single unifying issue that divided the country geographically and economically. Also, our country was young and on its way to becoming an empire.

This is a quite different situation. We are seeing the dissolution of our global power and influence. For the first time in our nation's history the U.S. under Trump is contracting and losing power, wealth, innovation, and influence.

Post-empire nations go through things. It is likely to be very bad for decades to come.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Chasstev365 Sep 14 OP

I agree, I think secession is just over the horizon CanonRay Sep 14 #1

Don't forget Sailingdiver Sep 14 #2

Yes; a very good point! Chasstev365 Sep 15 #10

"Talent on loan from Satan" Rush Limbaugh, a.k.a., Viagra's poster boy Efilroft Sul Sep 15 #11

There will be no unity as long as Fox news, right wing radio, and right wing podcasters and influencers dgauss Sep 14 #3

Hopefully people can acknowledge the problem was never economic anxiety JI7 Sep 14 #4

Nonsense leftstreet Sep 14 #5

It's always been there, it won't go away Quiet Em Sep 14 #6

With division, the "United" States has no purpose. It's as simple as that. Politicians should take note. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 14 #7

Bernie Sanders could have done it BWdem4life Sep 14 #8

Sadly, yes... Woodycall Sep 14 #9

Nonsense. He didn't unify anything. yardwork Sep 15 #15

Why in the *world* would I want to be united with them? EnergizedLib Sep 15 #12

I meant a leader who could ease the hate and lower the temperature Chasstev365 Sep 15 #13

Realistically who's going to do that? durablend Sep 15 #16

This is different from the 1850s. yardwork Sep 15 #14

Joe Biden Johnny2X2X Sep 15 #17