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49. Yes, we know this. But the point of the OP is how widely the projection is being relayed to the 230 million who

Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:02 PM

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expose themselves to those propaganda networks listed above. And how, no matter how right we are, we are facing a massive disinformation campaign and we still have to be ready to counter those who believe the "story" over the facts.

Now that the killer's apprehended and known to be from that very population, people of that audience will have to face that their sources weren't merely "mistaken," but have been serving up haterade to them.

We have the chance to do something, because there's more to come in this martyrdom theater. We are in a position to counter-inform people we know about how the "martyr" contributed to disuniting the "united" states --- by quoting him.

It's not enough to be right, or even have the facts to prove it. We have to ask people who benefits from telling them a story instead of the facts.We have to erode their trust in this power system without using the word fascist.

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Wake up. This is real. The incitement of political violence is happening. Trump & henchmen are calling US the murderers. [View all] ancianita Sep 11 OP

Awful people saying awful things so people will do awful things kerouac2 Sep 11 #1

I hear you. Rachel Bitecofer said it best. ancianita Sep 11 #2

So toxic kerouac2 Sep 11 #5

Prepare. Support those who can turn the temperature down, and be near those you know you can trust. ancianita Sep 11 #9

The GOP can't milk this "tragedy" for long before oasis Sep 11 #10

You don't think 1,500 pardoned Jan 6'ers don't have friends or networks? ancianita Sep 11 #11

Oh we are not gonna survive that much is for sure but Eliot Rosewater Sep 11 #36

General strike bdamomma Sep 12 #53

these goons/ghouls are just sick and need therapy vapor2 Sep 11 #3

That's IT? Then you are not in the same ecosystem as 230 million people who are LISTENING to fascism. ancianita Sep 11 #4

Just hope the shooter wasn't trans.... Melon Sep 11 #6

Even if he was, he's only 1% of all assassins and mass shooters combined. That's really not the point anymore. ancianita Sep 11 #7

Demoncrats???? bdamomma Sep 12 #54

Reread. I said "even IF..." Try to understand that hypotheticals are just that. ancianita Sep 13 #60

Sorry bdamomma Sep 13 #61

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welcome to DU RussBLib Sep 11 #14

That was an even crazier poster you responded to! marble falls Sep 12 #45

And our side mostly denounced the shooting and offered sympathy to his family. Diamond_Dog Sep 11 #12

It takes time for the public to get a clearer perspective. In the meantime, ancianita Sep 11 #15

Look at what's being shown on tik Tok. Fb videos Melon Sep 12 #46

the right is bloodthirsty RussBLib Sep 11 #13

Yes. WE know all this. The point of the OP is so that we also know what millions of others are listening to. ancianita Sep 11 #16

are there any cooler heads left on the right? RussBLib Sep 11 #18

Not sure. Can you think of any besides Cheney and Kinzinger? ancianita Sep 11 #19

Many that might be are probably afraid to speak up. Jack Valentino Sep 13 #62

"I would not put it beyond Trump and his Mafia gang to kill one of their own to blame it on the other side. " ancianita Sep 11 #24

I wouldn't bdamomma Sep 12 #55

It was a false flag by the piles of shit make no mistake Eliot Rosewater Sep 12 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author RegexReader Sep 12 #48

Some on the right pretty much said so Ferryboat Sep 12 #52

The lunatic bdamomma Sep 12 #56

More Projection. spanone Sep 11 #17

Massive. Also the other 3 forms of ego defense: repression, denial, and displacement. ancianita Sep 11 #20

Kirk's death may prove to be MAGA's Horst Wessel. pat_k Sep 11 #21

Good point. ancianita Sep 11 #22

Absolutely. Finding ways to preserve hope is key. pat_k Sep 11 #30

Thank you, pat_k. Amen. All their lies ancianita Sep 12 #40

Great post bdamomma Sep 12 #57

They are coming after us now. What do we do? debsy Sep 11 #23

So far, what we've been doing. We ARE doing a lot by just supporting those who are able to do anything about it. ancianita Sep 11 #29

All of those claims laid out in the OP yonder Sep 11 #25

Then we have to find out if the information is real. Fact. ancianita Sep 11 #31

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 11 #26

RW media is breaking their brains with propaganda and incitement. yellow dahlia Sep 11 #27

Yes. It's good that you're aware of that. ancianita Sep 11 #32

It's a "Who Can Make the Biggest Threat" Contest. Turbineguy Sep 11 #28

I get the first point. I don't get the second. What do you mean? ancianita Sep 11 #34

May I share your compilation of this? hamsterjill Sep 11 #33

Why not? I got it from Mother Jones but only want to speak to what it can mean for the future, is all. ancianita Sep 11 #37

Thanks. hamsterjill Sep 11 #39

Every one of these LA Blue Bengal Sep 11 #35

Absolutely. ancianita Sep 11 #38

K&R UTUSN Sep 12 #41

This is the Trumpublicans Reichstag Fire. SergeStorms Sep 12 #42

Looks like it. ancianita Sep 12 #44

Everything they say is the opposite of reality. It's projection. CaptainTruth Sep 12 #47

Yes, we know this. But the point of the OP is how widely the projection is being relayed to the 230 million who ancianita Sep 12 #49

Yes! I know that, & you know that. CaptainTruth Sep 12 #50

I very much appreciate your post and kind words, CaptainTruth. ancianita Sep 13 #59

More than ready to start Ferryboat Sep 12 #51

They just need something MaineBlueBear Sep 12 #58