Wake up. This is real. The incitement of political violence is happening. Trump & henchmen are calling US the murderers.

[ancianita]

1.
Elon Musk posted to his 225 million followers, “The Left is the party of murder.”
2.
Laura Loomer: to her 1.7 million followers called for the Trump administration to “shut down, defund, & prosecute every single Leftist organization,”
“The Left is a national security threat.”
“More people will be murdered if the Left isn’t crushed with the power of the state,”
3.
Katie Miller, wife of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, wrote on X that liberals “have blood on your hands.”
4.
Nancy Mace: "democrats own what happened today”
5.
Sean Davis, the CEO and co-founder of the Federalist, “When Democrats lose elections they couldn’t steal, they murder the people they were unable to defeat.”
6.
Jesse Watters, FOX News host claimed: “Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us.
And what are we going to do about it? How much political violence are we going to tolerate?” “This is a turning point. And we know which direction we are going.”
7.
Darryl Cooper, a far-right activist who posts and podcasts under the name “Martyr Made,” “Fascism is just the word used by freaks and degenerates when normal people realize that the Left won’t stop unless it’s forced to.”
8.
pastor Joel Webbon, a self-proclaimed Christian nationalist old his 51,000: “The Left will not stop until they are forced to. The Right must gain power, keep power, and wield power righteously. @realDonaldTrump, you have been appointed by Providence. You are commanded by Scripture to be a TERROR to those who do evil. Give them hell.”
9.
William Wolfe, another Christian nationalist “The. Left. Must. Be. Destroyed.” In a separate tweet, he wrote, “The Democrats and the Left must be crushed. The goal for Republicans in the next ten years shouldn’t just be to win elections, but to destroy the Democrat Party entirely and salt the earth underneath it.”
10.
Christopher Rufo, who made a name opposing critical race theory, called for swift action. “The last time the radical Left orchestrated a wave of violence and terror, J. Edgar Hoover shut it all down within a few years,” he posted to his 832,000 followers on X. “It is time, within the confines of the law, to infiltrate, disrupt, arrest, and incarcerate all of those who are responsible for this chaos.”
11.
Ryan Fournier, a co-founder of Students for Trump. “You have now made a radical out of me. You fuckers deserve it.”
12.
Stephen Miller, WH Dep Chief of Staff for Policy: “The Democrat Party does not fight for, care about or represent American citizens.” “It is an entity devoted exclusively to the defense of hardened criminals, ganbangers and illigal alien killers and terrorists. The Democrat Party is not a political party. It is a domestic extremist organization.

Black colleges, youth, progressive media, Rachel Bitecofer (!) see what's happening.
So should we.

Martyrdom -- and survived assassinations -- are major elements of dictatorship.
Martyrs and saviors: it's how Bolsonaro won, and Putin, and others you can name.

We Democrats must wake up.

[kerouac2]

1. Awful people saying awful things so people will do awful things

I honestly don't know how this country can survive because they are going to burn it all down.

[ancianita]

2. I hear you. Rachel Bitecofer said it best.

https://archive.ph/k34Ac

You want proximate cause for today’s rhetorical temperature? It’s the ecosystem that taught millions that Democrats are an existential enemy, not a loyal opposition....

... now, in the wake of Kirk’s killing, the same machine is already trying to flip the script and claim our rhetoric is the real problem...


BUT. Bitecofer doesn't actually SEE THE NUMBERS.

OVER 230 MILLION PEOPLE hear that WE are the threat to national security.

[kerouac2]

5. So toxic

How do you combat something so pervasive. And they have the means to get the message out loud and often.

[ancianita]

9. Prepare. Support those who can turn the temperature down, and be near those you know you can trust.

[oasis]

10. The GOP can't milk this "tragedy" for long before

they overreach. They always do. It’s in their DNA.

[ancianita]

11. You don't think 1,500 pardoned Jan 6'ers don't have friends or networks?

Have you seen the felon's 2025 pardon list? His bullhorn with his henchmen?

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-donald-j-trump-2025-present

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. Oh we are not gonna survive that much is for sure but

I have not been around the news for a while, has the shooter been caught and have they already created a lie about what the shooter represents or something?

[bdamomma]

53. General strike

shut it all down. They only care about the "green $$$$$'.

[vapor2]

3. these goons/ghouls are just sick and need therapy

[ancianita]

4. That's IT? Then you are not in the same ecosystem as 230 million people who are LISTENING to fascism.

You really think we have enough therapists who can fix what's wrong with people who have been

"...fully convinced the vaccine killed people because their movement told them so—relentlessly, lucratively... the same machine is already trying to flip the script and claim our rhetoric is the real problem." ??

and that Demoncrats are behind it all?

[Melon]

6. Just hope the shooter wasn't trans....

[ancianita]

7. Even if he was, he's only 1% of all assassins and mass shooters combined. That's really not the point anymore.

Look at the numbers above. Look at all the OTHER claims being repeated across platforms and RW media about how blood is on the hands of "Demoncrats."

[bdamomma]

54. Demoncrats????

crap just grow up huh????

[ancianita]

60. Reread. I said "even IF..." Try to understand that hypotheticals are just that.

[bdamomma]

61. Sorry

I misread that.

[RussBLib]

14. welcome to DU

crazy times

[marble falls]

45. That was an even crazier poster you responded to!

[Diamond_Dog]

12. And our side mostly denounced the shooting and offered sympathy to his family.

But somehow we are the enemy.

[ancianita]

15. It takes time for the public to get a clearer perspective. In the meantime,

campus and naval base lockdowns, detention centers, etc., and sometimes they don't get enough time. Events can create anxiety. People in off-and-on states of fear get into emotional cycles and habits, can't think clearly or make good decisions, and often shut down and stay socially remote. Who would that benefit?

[Melon]

46. Look at what's being shown on tik Tok. Fb videos

What’s getting amplified are people cheering the assignation. TMZ broadcast with their staff cheering in the background when it was announced he died. MSNBC commentator being fired. Some of the optics are horrible. People don’t think.

[RussBLib]

13. the right is bloodthirsty

why are most all the mass shooters right-wingers?

I would not put it beyond Trump and his Mafia gang to kill one of their own to blame it on the other side. It's not a new tactic. And Trump looks like that kind of guy to me. How about that last "attempt" on his life which only took out the tip of his ear which miraculously regrew?

There is no evidence anyone from the left killed Kirk. But that's obviously not enough for this bloodthirsty crowd.

[ancianita]

16. Yes. WE know all this. The point of the OP is so that we also know what millions of others are listening to.

Objectively you're right. But millions who listen to the above people through their media exposure, or just what they hear from neighbors who do, can also think they're right.

Evidence means nothing to those whose emotions guide their thinking and not the other way around.

[RussBLib]

18. are there any cooler heads left on the right?

time for them to speak up

[ancianita]

19. Not sure. Can you think of any besides Cheney and Kinzinger?

Beyond them it seems that those who do try to turn down the temperature get anonymous threats (and even their families) in all kinds of forms, right? Are the right all evil? No. Of course not.

But they can be good people who might be afraid to speak up, or simply don't know what to do.

[Jack Valentino]

62. Many that might be are probably afraid to speak up.

[ancianita]

24. "I would not put it beyond Trump and his Mafia gang to kill one of their own to blame it on the other side. "

You're not alone.

Too little real investigation. Too much dripdrip evidence being shown to the public.
Videos of the suspect in one 9 minute presser?

IMO, there is a story developing, and there very well could be a media production going on. If Trump "feels" a deep-seated empathy for Kirk because of his own assassination attempt, the medal of freedom ceremony will be Act 1.

There. I said it. The production capability of this administration could be enhanced by AI for all kinds of nefarious moves and narratives -- I'm thinking about "Wag the Dog" -- anything to stay in over-my-dead-body power, even suppress or eliminate the midterms.

[bdamomma]

55. I wouldn't

doubt it. I keep on thinking they are using their own to kill the "sacrificial lamb Kirk", and place blame on Democrats???? to keep their convicted felon safe.

Epstein files should not be off the radar.

[Eliot Rosewater]

43. It was a false flag by the piles of shit make no mistake

And even if it wasn’t they will use it to destroy us, to send the military into our cities etc.

For months I have repeatedly warned patriots i.e. liberals and Democrats that they must exercise their second amendment right, that the MAGA and their billionaire supporters are mass murderers and they are going to come after us and either imprison or kill us.

[Ferryboat]

52. Some on the right pretty much said so

Those who didn’t see that the thin veil of civility fall away with the death of CK? All pretense is gone.
They are more than ready to start shooting. Admitted as much.

[bdamomma]

56. The lunatic

right is not getting away either, the little Nazi Miller will see that everyone is thrown into the net. I would love to see him in some situation.

[spanone]

17. More Projection.

[ancianita]

20. Massive. Also the other 3 forms of ego defense: repression, denial, and displacement.

[pat_k]

21. Kirk's death may prove to be MAGA's Horst Wessel.

Given the state of the "anger-sphere" calling for blood and revenge today, I have a terrible sinking feeling that his death will unleash further oppression of, and violence against, those who care about REAL American values -- -- values like human-rights, rule of law, religious freedom, and self-governance, and the thinking underlying those values, among them rationality, compassion as a moral imperative, and scientific inquiry.

[ancianita]

22. Good point.

People need to know that they can stop all that threatens to be unleashed. We see millions protesting, so these attackers of Democrats know the public's spirit is on the right side of history. They're just trying to convince those millions that Democrats aren't. But they can lose like they did when Obama ran, because people are caring, listen to their hearts, and don't believe what they're told, but realize they can know people by their "fruits."

They do believe Rachel's maxim: Watch what they do, not what they say.
Maybe I myself should believe her more.

But it's just that this time, there's so much of what they do that is hidden, that her maxim might not help.

Because martyrs revive flagging cults.

[pat_k]

30. Absolutely. Finding ways to preserve hope is key.

In expressing my fears the last thing I want is for it to be seen a prediction of doom that feeds hopelessness and cynicism. I'm usually better about adding something to combat immobilizing overwhelm at what we are up against. My fears are real. But we must also find ways to connect with others to "do our bits of good." (Desmond Tutu: "Do your little bit of good where you are; it's those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world" )

Of course we CAN and MUST redeem our national soul. And part of that means paying attention to the messages we promote online. Some great points were made in this recent segment from Tad Stoermer’s: "Don’t become a tool of the counter-resistance." As he points out, Hope is as much of the lifeblood of resistance as Lies are for authoritarians.

[ancianita]

40. Thank you, pat_k. Amen. All their lies

are of the Devil, aka, Mammon.

Hope is the anchor the soul -- not just of people, but of democracy, as Joe once told us. The two elements that make up either kind of soul are Intellect and Will.
Intellect is built on awareness, understanding, wisdom and counsel. The Will is love.

Love is hard. Hate is easy. Love is intentional effort, love is as love does, and that takes Will.
When we exercise both of those together, in great numbers, we will save the soul of America.
Which is all of us.

[bdamomma]

57. Great post

maybe we should "mock them". They are all into fear and hate, let's show them we are not.
If the truth ever got to them, their heads would blow off, look up Cognitive Dissonance.

[debsy]

23. They are coming after us now. What do we do?

Do we protest against our tax dollars being spent to prop up a neo-nazi?

Not many on Capitol Hill answer their phones, they don’t hold enough town halls, they don’t generally listen to their constituents, they are not accessible, and none of us seem to be able to do anything about it.

We know where the media stand. Got that loud and clear.

America fiddles while the Constitution burns. 🔥

[ancianita]

29. So far, what we've been doing. We ARE doing a lot by just supporting those who are able to do anything about it.

Right? It's just that there's a new scenario to be aware of because we've never been attacked this way -- in the press, our cities, our govt leader roles -- by our government -- the one where we're targeted with a flood of lies and also the next Big Lie.

Please don't fear. Just be aware.

[yonder]

25. All of those claims laid out in the OP

are BEFORE any details about the gunman, motivations, or support network are known.

What happens AFTER that information becomes available?

[ancianita]

31. Then we have to find out if the information is real. Fact.

We have a lot of experts out of government that will help with that.

[H2O Man]

26. Recommended.

[yellow dahlia]

27. RW media is breaking their brains with propaganda and incitement.

I have been scared by what I see when I monitor fauxnews and notnewsmax, awhile now.

[ancianita]

32. Yes. It's good that you're aware of that.

Don't be scared. Just look for good information and those who know what to do with it next.

[Turbineguy]

28. It's a "Who Can Make the Biggest Threat" Contest.

This living in your mom's basement is wearing their patience thin.

[ancianita]

34. I get the first point. I don't get the second. What do you mean?

[hamsterjill]

33. May I share your compilation of this?

I won't use anything but the actual compilation of quotes. If you'd prefer that I not, I will not without your permission.

Thank you in advance.

[ancianita]

37. Why not? I got it from Mother Jones but only want to speak to what it can mean for the future, is all.

It's not like I have copyrights. Here's the Mother Jones report that doesn't put the Democratic spin on it ... https://archive.ph/wlAey . They wrote it from other report sources, as well. I just condensed their facts.

The information is also easily confirmable across Wikipedia and other open sources.

[hamsterjill]

39. Thanks.

I'm just lazy... and you are so good at this!!!

[LA Blue Bengal]

35. Every one of these

Keyboard commandos would wet their pants if they were ever confronted with real resistance

[ancianita]

38. Absolutely.

The thing is, they won't ever be confronted until the rest of the press wakes up.
Why? Because real resistance will have to be constant public protest and the GOTV.

[UTUSN]

41. K&R

[SergeStorms]

42. This is the Trumpublicans Reichstag Fire.

They're going to use every avenue available to maintain power and control. Forever.
I was wondering when it would come and how it would evolve. Charle Kirk was their sacrifice to their Lord and Savior, Donald Trump.
This was a false-flag operation from the start.
They've spent almost 60 years consolidating power in this country, and they're not going to let go of it. Ever.

[ancianita]

44. Looks like it.

Yes they are. AND they want us all to think this is INEVITABLE. Nothing about "forever" is written in stone. As went the Nazis -- who also planned to be in power forever -- so will go these power mongers and their power worshippers.

There are more empowering experts outside this government than in it.

We just have to fight for the REALITY of the facts, and the real narrative behind their operation.
The People will know what to do.

[CaptainTruth]

47. Everything they say is the opposite of reality. It's projection.

They're describing themselves, the Right, Republicans.

It should say:
"The Republican Party is not a political party. It is a domestic extremist organization."

[ancianita]

49. Yes, we know this. But the point of the OP is how widely the projection is being relayed to the 230 million who

expose themselves to those propaganda networks listed above. And how, no matter how right we are, we are facing a massive disinformation campaign and we still have to be ready to counter those who believe the "story" over the facts.

Now that the killer's apprehended and known to be from that very population, people of that audience will have to face that their sources weren't merely "mistaken," but have been serving up haterade to them.

We have the chance to do something, because there's more to come in this martyrdom theater. We are in a position to counter-inform people we know about how the "martyr" contributed to disuniting the "united" states --- by quoting him.

It's not enough to be right, or even have the facts to prove it. We have to ask people who benefits from telling them a story instead of the facts.We have to erode their trust in this power system without using the word fascist.

[CaptainTruth]

50. Yes! I know that, & you know that.

I truly believe that the biggest threat to our country today is those "propaganda networks" you refer to. The billionaires who control them are brainwashing millions of people for their own gain.

You say "We have the chance to do something" & I agree. I'm willing to do just about anything, so... what are your ideas? Seriously. If you want to have a private discussion (I understand) about methods of resistance, organizations, whatever... please PM me.
Or make it an OP, I'm sure it would lead to an awesome discussion thread. I don't want to just complain on social media, that does nothing, I want to take action to make change, & I'm trying to find people who are willing to take action with me. We need to work together in large numbers (millions) if we are to save our country from the evil of the Trump Regime.

BTW... please don't take my comments the wrong way! I'm not criticizing you or attacking you... you're one of my favorite DU'ers & I love your posts!

[ancianita]

59. I very much appreciate your post and kind words, CaptainTruth.

The thing about my giving suggestions is that so many before me have thought longer and harder about what to do than I have.

Gene Sharp is near the top of that list. Read a couple of his important works ..

https://www.amazon.com/Dictatorship-Democracy-Gene-Sharp/dp/1846688396/ref=sr_1_2

https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Tyranny-Dictatorship-Democracy-Anti-Coup/dp/0648531511/ref=sr_1_3

Most people use his "198 Methods for Nonviolence."
https://commonslibrary.org/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/

Then join others who apply Sharp's ideas.
Indivisibles has a group near you.

Again, thank you for your post.

[Ferryboat]

51. More than ready to start

Lining everyone up against the wall.

Do not forgot, do not forgive.

[MaineBlueBear]

58. They just need something

To justify all of the awful things they want to do.