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58. For those posting about Mr. Kirk's statement on the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, here is the entire quote
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:18 PM
Sep 11

CHARLIE KIRK: “Yeah, it's a great question. Thank you. So, I'm a big Second Amendment fan but I think most politicians are cowards when it comes to defending why we have a Second Amendment. This is why I would not be a good politician, or maybe I would, I don't know, because I actually speak my mind.The Second Amendment is not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second Amendment is there, God forbid, so that you can defend yourself against a tyrannical government. And if that talk scares you — "wow, that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that" — well then, you have not really read any of the literature of our Founding Fathers. Number two, you've not read any 20th-century history. You're just living in Narnia. By the way, if you're actually living in Narnia, you would be wiser than wherever you're living, because C.S. Lewis was really smart. So I don't know what alternative universe you're living in. You just don't want to face reality that governments tend to get tyrannical and that if people need an ability to protect themselves and their communities and their families.
Now, we must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price. 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That's a price. You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving — speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services — is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. So we need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. You could significantly reduce them through having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.
You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I, I — I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.
So then, how do you reduce? Very simple. People say, oh, Charlie, how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How did we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have armed guards outside of baseball games. That's why. How did we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed guards outside of airports. How do we stop all the shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks. How did we stop all the shootings at gun shows? Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows, there's all these guns. Because everyone's armed. If our money and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards, why don't our children?”

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All those dead school children were 'worth' it to Charlie. Norrrm Sep 11 #1
ABC Evening News Last Night OhioTim Sep 11 #27
The American news media only cares about $$$$$ Lanius Sep 11 #49
... Oeditpus Rex Sep 11 #67
NBC evening news gave all it's 30 minutes to his shooting. KS Toronado Sep 11 #56
Update from Evergreen, Colorado. It's now reported Cha Sep 11 #65
Thank you for the update Dear_Prudence Sep 12 #94
You're Welcome.. I know what you Cha Sep 12 #97
Those dead kids were a price that shit head was willing to pay............. Bengus81 Sep 11 #28
Presumably, his own death was 'worth it' to Charlie, by his own words.... Jack Valentino Sep 12 #81
EXCELLENT!!!! 👍 sdfernando Sep 11 #2
I think the resounding quiet yesterday from elected Republicans was from their shocking realization that the violence mnhtnbb Sep 11 #3
When this happened, Pat Tillman came to mind. Are we seeing a case of "sacrificial lamb"? I hope not. Escurumbele Sep 11 #18
ah! NJCher Sep 11 #75
Reap what you sow Archiebald Sep 11 #4
Welcome to DU Marthe48 Sep 11 #20
Well, at least it is one bullet that won't get to kill a defenseless kid in a classroom. I shall not weep and consider.. usaf-vet Sep 11 #42
LINK CousinIT Sep 11 #5
Thank you for the link! mnhtnbb Sep 11 #6
Brilliant summation! MuirHero Sep 11 #13
Nobody will ever put it better than this. (nt) Paladin Sep 11 #7
"It's too soon to be talking about gun control" Ray Bruns Sep 11 #8
Tesseract tonkatoy8888 Sep 11 #9
When I read that mnhtnbb Sep 11 #10
I imagine this essay will be wasted on rwnj Marthe48 Sep 11 #23
Irony is also apparently lost on them. mnhtnbb Sep 11 #51
whoosh NJCher Sep 11 #77
And I was aware of it from A Wrinkle in Time! ShazzieB Sep 11 #70
Tesseracts were/are featured in A Wrinkle in Time MadameButterfly Sep 11 #61
The Tesseract - Marvel Studios' Legends Celerity Sep 11 #64
K&R Solly Mack Sep 11 #11
Very well said. maliaSmith Sep 11 #12
The most cogent quote I'm come across some_of_us_are_sane Sep 11 #14
KNR and bookmarking. niyad Sep 11 #15
The regime is making a bigger deal of Kirk than all school shootings put together and throw in Minnesota lawmakers. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 11 #16
Well, somebody is worried about getting into heaven. Wonder how much worrying he is doing and just what all it's about Attilatheblond Sep 11 #47
or simply stated, so what if you, I or your kids get shot 3Hotdogs Sep 11 #17
What a remarkable piece of writing. I am in awe. Midnight Writer Sep 11 #19
The cadence reminds me of Whitman's Marthe48 Sep 11 #21
I agree with you 100%. Moostache Sep 11 #22
Charlie Kirk had some extremely powerful friends. But he also made equally powerful enemies. Initech Sep 11 #24
Tots and pears, charlie. SergeStorms Sep 11 #25
Spewing Hate gfarber Sep 11 #26
Those last three sentences bluestateboomer Sep 11 #29
the lessons of karma and the "golden rule" are basically one and the same. curious that this is reflected also in the somaticexperiencing Sep 11 #30
If you haven't already... littlemissmartypants Sep 11 #35
Thank you! somaticexperiencing Sep 11 #48
My pleasure, somaticexperiencing. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 11 #50
bought that book a long time ago NJCher Sep 12 #83
Me, too. Our friendship makes more sense every day. ❤️🪄💫 littlemissmartypants Sep 12 #84
Yep NJCher Sep 12 #86
The curse of a nation built on the bloody genocide of its previous inhabitants. Justice matters. Sep 11 #31
Except that the writer assumes this was political violence CanonRay Sep 11 #32
What disqualifies it? littlemissmartypants Sep 11 #34
I didn't read it that way Raven123 Sep 11 #38
Yeah, we don't know anything about the guy's politics Farmer-Rick Sep 11 #43
Charlie Kirk encouraged his own murder CanonRay Sep 11 #55
Excellent! Thanks!! littlemissmartypants Sep 11 #33
!!! This is the best post I have ever read on this site !!! cer7711 Sep 11 #36
That was really good, thanks for sharing. barbtries Sep 11 #37
Republicans are Always willing for OTHERS to make sacrifices that benefit of the Republicans,. I wonder, Bluetus Sep 11 #39
Remember this post as the whitewash of Kirk continues. Sneederbunk Sep 11 #40
Best locution: "This is not Schadenfreude. It's retribution." N/t NNadir Sep 11 #41
Maybe this is just the beginning popsdenver Sep 11 #44
kick Dawson Leery Sep 11 #45
Dis-B-Truth. Preach it, BROTHER! czarjak Sep 11 #46
Certainly put words to my feelings. I'll save my grief for his innocent children. Marie Marie Sep 11 #52
You can sum it up in one word: BLOWBACK DinahMoeHum Sep 11 #53
Live by the gun die by the gun WmChris Sep 11 #54
I was a school librarian for a few years. HeartsCanHope Sep 11 #57
For those posting about Mr. Kirk's statement on the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, here is the entire quote Suite_Me Sep 11 #58
More irony. mnhtnbb Sep 11 #59
Moron couldn't get the difference between firearms and motor vehicles. I imagine he got a practical lesson on it ... marble falls Sep 11 #66
welcome to DU RussBLib Sep 11 #79
Interesting moose65 Sep 12 #88
Thanks. Excellent post . . . Journeyman Sep 11 #60
KnR Faux pas Sep 11 #62
Gun debate with Kirk PCB66 Sep 11 #63
Many of Kirk's YouTube videos are edited Keepthesoulalive Sep 12 #90
His own children got to see him die, for what he believed MerryBlooms Sep 11 #68
"These violent delights... sir pball Sep 11 #69
Beautiful. If only. Fla Dem Sep 11 #71
Nice, but probably more attention and thoughtfulness than Charlie Kirk deserves. thought crime Sep 11 #72
I sure hope that the moment before Figarosmom Sep 11 #73
Thank you for sharing this. yellow dahlia Sep 11 #74
TLDR usonian Sep 11 #76
Brilliantly done. msfiddlestix Sep 11 #78
For myself JPK Sep 11 #80
"God-given rights.",,, Must be a weak God if man can take away those rights. Norrrm Sep 12 #82
To be fair, he was (unintentionally) honest.... EllisWhy Sep 12 #85
Reminds me of the Latino fathers who supported Trump and then got deported DFW Sep 12 #87
Well said. mdbl Sep 12 #89
his canonization RegexReader Sep 12 #91
Knew nothing good about CK before his passing, and got nothing since his passing, AINTK? Brainfodder Sep 12 #92
If only poor dead charlie had had a gun that day..... lastlib Sep 12 #93
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Sep 12 #95
So, the Republican gun culture family friend mnhtnbb Sep 12 #96
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