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Bluetus

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36. I tend to agree with you, but would only add
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:14 PM
Sep 11

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The American RW is not monolithic. It seems like Trump is firmly in control, but actually, his control comes from the fact that, so far, numerous other power centers have found a Trump ascent to their advantage.

But in this period where Trump's health is failing (mentally and physically), obviously there is a lot of jockeying for the inside rail in the post-Trump period. Kirk was one of these players, aligning himself with what, in the past, would have been called "Young Republicans" or junior Nazis in training. That is not insignificant because many consider that to have been the decisive vote in the 2024 election.

But there are other factions. We have Bannon/Miller and the other fully-fledged Nazis, who would have viewed Kirk as a direct rival. We have Theil, Musk and the tech bros who are less political but all about enslaving humanity to their money-making machines. There are the old-money billionaires like Koch, Heritage et al. And there is certainly whatever Putin/Xi/Kim have planned. And of course, the Christo-fascists.

Most of these factions have connections with Putin. Putin need not have personally been engaged in planning for this assassination. But I am sure that Putin's heart is overjoyed today with this new chaos on the anniversary of 9/11. And there certainly are plenty of agents with FSB who could have been involved.

Or it could just be one really messed up guy who became enraged with Kirk's attacks on LGBT. We don't have much reliable information yet, but it is worthwhile to consider the full range of scenarios and people who benefit from Kirk's death. The one group that does NOT benefit from Kirk's death is the LGBT community, because his martyrdom will undoubtedly be used to reach an even greater level of hate against the LGBT community. So let's hope that is not the scenario.

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FSB hit? [View all] orangecrush Sep 11 OP
Occured to me this morning, too. marble falls Sep 11 #1
Yesterday, I posted that the shooter was likely already on flight back to russia SheltieLover Sep 11 #2
I have a cold feeling orangecrush Sep 11 #6
Yup SheltieLover Sep 11 #7
So much speculation... Fiendish Thingy Sep 11 #3
I agree orangecrush Sep 11 #4
FSB? WiVoter Sep 11 #5
Federal Security Service. PragmaticLiberal Sep 11 #8
Thanks orangecrush Sep 11 #10
Successor to the KGB orangecrush Sep 11 #9
It is the replacement for the KGB. Bluetus Sep 11 #20
200 yards orangecrush Sep 11 #21
200 yards is a common distance at a rifle shooting range, it's pretty much normal. sir pball Sep 11 #24
It sounds to me ForgedCrank Sep 11 #11
We will see. orangecrush Sep 11 #12
I had said it wasn't a political hit CanonRay Sep 11 #13
What happened during his call for silent prayer? 2MuchNoise Sep 11 #14
Boebert called for a spoken prayer instead orangecrush Sep 11 #15
Baseless speculation maxsolomon Sep 11 #16
He abandoned the clean rifle orangecrush Sep 11 #17
He did not wipe it or wear gloves. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 11 #18
No fingerprints orangecrush Sep 11 #22
Prints mean it was not wiped though found near a towel. Palm print means no gloves. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 11 #25
Just guessing, but orangecrush Sep 11 #26
Palm and forearm prints ARE identifiers, but not typically filed anywhere. Used to match a captured suspect. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 11 #28
Thanks orangecrush Sep 11 #29
Whatever answer they come up, we Baitball Blogger Sep 11 #19
Whatever they come up with orangecrush Sep 11 #23
No, this was not a professional marksman trained to kill. sir pball Sep 11 #27
Good points. orangecrush Sep 11 #31
It is cheaper and easier for the Russians to just wait for whatever happens in the US RockRaven Sep 11 #30
From "Putin's Brain".... orangecrush Sep 11 #32
I tend to agree with you, but would only add Bluetus Sep 11 #36
I dunno. But a little birdie in the B.See Sep 11 #33
Yup orangecrush Sep 11 #34
The latest plant job certainly smells like FSB. Crunchy Frog Sep 11 #35
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