FSB hit?

[orangecrush]

Stirring up extreme division and further breaking down normal political discourse?

For an example, look at what happened during Johnson's "call for silent prayer" in the House.

It would fit their m.o..

It is appearing more and more that this was professional grade.

[marble falls]

1. Occured to me this morning, too.

[SheltieLover]

2. Yesterday, I posted that the shooter was likely already on flight back to russia

[orangecrush]

6. I have a cold feeling

In the pit of my stonach about this

[SheltieLover]

7. Yup

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. So much speculation...

…so little evidence.

[orangecrush]

4. I agree

But it is very strange.

They said in a statement the suspect is gone and they don't know where he is, and have not identified.

[WiVoter]

5. FSB?

What does that stand for?

[PragmaticLiberal]

8. Federal Security Service.

The successor to the KGB.

[orangecrush]

10. Thanks

Beat me to it.

[orangecrush]

9. Successor to the KGB

.

[Bluetus]

20. It is the replacement for the KGB.

Reportedly there was significant evidence left at the site, including footprints. And the suspected shooter was seen on video, but I don't know how clear the image was.

This doesn't really seem like a professional hit, unless THAT was the purpose -- to make it look like an angry loner.

I wonder what percentage of people who have not had professional marksmanship training could have executed a single kill shot from over 200 yards. I don't own any guns and have only shot a gun bigger than an air pellet gun once in my life, so I have no idea how much skill is involved. I assume there was a magnifier scope, but still, one shot from > 200 yards seems like an extremely difficult shot.

Of course, it is possible that the shooter was LGBT and also had professional sniper training in the military or with a SWAT team. Many possibilities. Few facts. But this does not seem like something a person could do without extensive shooting training.

[orangecrush]

21. 200 yards

For even a mediocre marksman with a bolt action rifle is nothing hard.

[sir pball]

24. 200 yards is a common distance at a rifle shooting range, it's pretty much normal.

And a decent off-the-rack scoped deer rifle from Walmart or Dick's. Pretty much anyone who's spent a few days at the range learning how to shoot straight could have made this shot; I won't go into too much more detail as there are a couple of other posts here that have a LOT more information on just how easy this really was.

I will say I think this was actually a near-miss by a competent but still very amateur person who was going for a maximum-shock-and-gore effect, and I'll leave it at that unless you want more details.

[ForgedCrank]

11. It sounds to me

like Q is alive and well, just residing in a place I never expected to find it

[orangecrush]

12. We will see.

I hope I'm wrong.

[CanonRay]

13. I had said it wasn't a political hit

Never thought of the FSB, but that makes a lot of sense.

[2MuchNoise]

14. What happened during his call for silent prayer?

[orangecrush]

15. Boebert called for a spoken prayer instead

And a profane shouting match broke out between both sides

[maxsolomon]

16. Baseless speculation

The reality of the shooter will be mundane. It always is.

[orangecrush]

17. He abandoned the clean rifle

Smells like teen spirit

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. He did not wipe it or wear gloves.

[orangecrush]

22. No fingerprints

A "palm print" and "forearm print".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Prints mean it was not wiped though found near a towel. Palm print means no gloves. . . . nt

[orangecrush]

26. Just guessing, but

I have a feeling "palm prints" and "forearm prints" are not identifiers, like fingerprints.

I don't have a horse in this race, and pure speculation on my part.

Not claiming otherwise

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. Palm and forearm prints ARE identifiers, but not typically filed anywhere. Used to match a captured suspect.

And FSB speculation is almost certainly nonsense. Faintly conceivable but with the info we know already probability of FSB is less than 0.00001 %.

[orangecrush]

29. Thanks

I'll trust you on that.

[Baitball Blogger]

19. Whatever answer they come up, we

Better not take at face value.

[orangecrush]

23. Whatever they come up with

Will be whatever makes Trump happy.

Which means it's very possible it will be nothing.

[sir pball]

27. No, this was not a professional marksman trained to kill.

A highly skilled shooter, at a mere 175 yards, can reliably place the shot to within a third of an inch or so. The throat is actually an awful target, it doesn't guarantee an immediate kill–a sniper would be aiming for the base of the skull, to obliterate the brainstem and literally drop the victim where they stand, falling limply like a marionette with the strings cut. As Maru Kitteh has pointed out in another post, Kirk didn't do that but rather he spasmed and arched in a sign of immensely traumatic, but not instantly lethal, brain damage.

And if you're thinking "but the throat shot was so gory, the shooter wanted the most horrific if not effective outcome"…a straight headshot at that range would be, um…have you seen Cronenberg's film Scanners?

[orangecrush]

31. Good points.

[RockRaven]

30. It is cheaper and easier for the Russians to just wait for whatever happens in the US

and capitalize on our own shittiness however it manifests, rather than doing the work on the ground themselves.

The Russians are the propaganda version of those game shows where aspiring chefs get a basket of random ingredients and need to make a meal out of them. There is less of a grand plan and more of just rolling with whatever ends up being in the basket.

[orangecrush]

32. From "Putin's Brain"....

In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Hardly a passive role.

[Bluetus]

36. I tend to agree with you, but would only add

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The American RW is not monolithic. It seems like Trump is firmly in control, but actually, his control comes from the fact that, so far, numerous other power centers have found a Trump ascent to their advantage.

But in this period where Trump's health is failing (mentally and physically), obviously there is a lot of jockeying for the inside rail in the post-Trump period. Kirk was one of these players, aligning himself with what, in the past, would have been called "Young Republicans" or junior Nazis in training. That is not insignificant because many consider that to have been the decisive vote in the 2024 election.

But there are other factions. We have Bannon/Miller and the other fully-fledged Nazis, who would have viewed Kirk as a direct rival. We have Theil, Musk and the tech bros who are less political but all about enslaving humanity to their money-making machines. There are the old-money billionaires like Koch, Heritage et al. And there is certainly whatever Putin/Xi/Kim have planned. And of course, the Christo-fascists.

Most of these factions have connections with Putin. Putin need not have personally been engaged in planning for this assassination. But I am sure that Putin's heart is overjoyed today with this new chaos on the anniversary of 9/11. And there certainly are plenty of agents with FSB who could have been involved.

Or it could just be one really messed up guy who became enraged with Kirk's attacks on LGBT. We don't have much reliable information yet, but it is worthwhile to consider the full range of scenarios and people who benefit from Kirk's death. The one group that does NOT benefit from Kirk's death is the LGBT community, because his martyrdom will undoubtedly be used to reach an even greater level of hate against the LGBT community. So let's hope that is not the scenario.

[B.See]

33. I dunno. But a little birdie in the

back of my head keeps asking, "if not some random act by someone mentally unbalanced, or something very personal, then, Why Kirk"? And

"Who would stand to have the most to gain from such an act?"

Rifle left somewhere in woods? With etchings on the ammo?? REALLY?

[orangecrush]

34. Yup

[Crunchy Frog]

35. The latest plant job certainly smells like FSB.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/russia-sims-3/