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sabbat hunter

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2. Many of those ships
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 06:51 PM
Aug 31

in that count are still brown water ships. Not ones that can go deep in to the ocean, but stick close to shore. While we do need to make sure our fleet is up to date, we cannot, and should not, get in to a cold war era competition with china on a defense build up. We overspend on defense as it is.

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We will most likely lose our standing in a lot of ways real soon. Signs like this are going up a lot lately Deuxcents Aug 31 #1
More from the BBC nitpicked Aug 31 #3
And from AP nitpicked Aug 31 #4
I don't like this Us vs Them vibe these articles/news gives me Deuxcents Aug 31 #7
But it really is Us vs. Them and has been for a long time DavidDvorkin Aug 31 #9
Yes, but this saber rattling is happening when we're so unprepared and our experienced military leaders Deuxcents Aug 31 #10
They are indeed taking advantage DavidDvorkin Aug 31 #12
Many of those ships sabbat hunter Aug 31 #2
Bingo. Capabilities, not numbers. Plus, China has a host of other problems they can't simply build their way out of. paleotn Aug 31 #6
Numbers of ships a navy has, even total tonnage, isn't necessarily a measure of power. Capabilities are. paleotn Aug 31 #5
Obama tried to tell us. Hillary Clinton tried to tell us. Hekate Aug 31 #8
Tell us what? paleotn Aug 31 #13
Historically, naval dominance isn't about military power. Morbius Aug 31 #11
These articles . . . . DarthDem Aug 31 #14
The endless pissng contests between wannabee "Great Leaders" lead ordinary people to their graves. Ping Tung Sep 1 #15
China will be the only existing superpower in the world JI7 Sep 1 #16
I can understand countries wanting to secure their economic rights in the face of Trumps shakedown attempts. David__77 Sep 1 #17
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