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lapucelle

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61. Why aren't the public statements of the chairman of a terrorist political bureau "compelling"?

Thu Aug 14, 2025, 05:56 PM

Aug 14

What makes you think that Hamas leaders had "no effective weapons"? Not only did Haniyeh threaten Israel; he also threatened Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

"All the agreements of normalisation that you (Arab states) signed with (Israel) will not end this conflict," Haniyeh declared on Qatar-based Al Jazeera television shortly after Hamas fighters launched their assault on Israel on Oct. 7, killing 1,200 people and taking more than 200 people hostage.

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Ismail Haniyeh was a fat, pink, and polished multi-millionaire terrorist leader who lived a life of luxury in Qatar. He was the guy selected to be prime minister in 2006 when the last elections were held and Hamas took over Gaza. He was also the public face and spokesman for Hamas, post October 3. He was having a visit with the Ayatollah in a palace in Iran when he was killed.

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Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh leads group's diplomacy as Gaza war rages

Nov 23 (Reuters) - Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas leader based in Qatar, has been the tough-talking face of the Palestinian group's international diplomacy as war has raged back in Gaza where his family home was destroyed in an Israeli air strike in November.
Appointed to the militant group's top job in 2017, he has moved between Turkey and Qatar's capital Doha, escaping the travel restrictions of the blockaded Gaza Strip and enabling him to act as a negotiator in the latest ceasefire deal or talk to Hamas' main ally Iran.

Appointed to the militant group's top job in 2017, he has moved between Turkey and Qatar's capital Doha, escaping the travel restrictions of the blockaded Gaza Strip and enabling him to act as a negotiator in the latest ceasefire deal or talk to Hamas' main ally Iran.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-leader-ismail-haniyeh-leads-groups-diplomacy-gaza-war-rages-2023-11-23/

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Israel Confiscated Baby Formula From Doctors On Arrival in Gaza [View all] ihaveaquestion Aug 14 OP

Sadists. I suppose the Hamas leadership was going to drink it. hlthe2b Aug 14 #1

Netanyahu Rebl2 Aug 14 #72

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Indescribable evil. mountain grammy Aug 14 #3

Mortifying. halobeam Aug 14 #4

From admiration, to disappointment, to disgust. Sneederbunk Aug 14 #5

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster." harumph Aug 14 #6

Are there any other sources to confirm this? murielm99 Aug 14 #7

here Celerity Aug 14 #8

Had been limiting my shared sentiments here on DU regarding Israel/Palestine. All of it sickens my soul. sprinkleeninow Aug 14 #33

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Quick google search found several links... (which you could have found yourself btw) ihaveaquestion Aug 14 #9

Those are simply reports about various claims, not evidence that any of the claims are true. lapucelle Aug 14 #14

So many reports contradict the gov't statements on GAZA that their trustworthiness is highly suspect. ihaveaquestion Aug 14 #25

While no one has confirmed the claim the Israel confiscated cans of "baby feed" from anyone's luggage, lapucelle Aug 14 #10

An American woman Dr claimed that it was confiscated when she arrived womanofthehills Aug 14 #12

The bottle tiktoker awadbarbakh1 puts into the baby's mouth is empty. lapucelle Aug 14 #26

Evil in its own right. I spotted that also and was appalled. Totally Tunsie Aug 14 #31

Read the comments below the video Mossfern Aug 14 #62

The Allenby Bridge is a land crossing. All travel from there to Gaza would be overland. RockCreek Aug 14 #13

Cans of powder were confiscated from people's luggage. lapucelle Aug 14 #15

Dr. Nick Maynard - Inside a Gaza hospital: A British surgeon on what he's witnessing firsthand cliffside Aug 14 #17

An American woman Dr claimed that it was confiscated when she arrived womanofthehills Aug 14 #20

The bottle tiktoker awadbarbakh1 puts into the baby's mouth is empty. lapucelle Aug 14 #27

So what would constitute valid evidence to you? ihaveaquestion Aug 14 #21

The American woman doc said American doctors have to bring in their own food womanofthehills Aug 14 #23

I've also heard the claim that Hamas uses children as human shields Orrex Aug 14 #47

So you reject the claim that the IDF uses children for target practice as ridiculous. lapucelle Aug 14 #48

I doubt that the IDF is lining them up on a shooting range Orrex Aug 14 #51

Here's a report from the "Hamas uses human shields crowd" at NATO lapucelle Aug 14 #53

The ravings of a terrorist are not, in themselves, compelling Orrex Aug 14 #57

The gaslighting and reality-inversion is really something, isn't it? AloeVera Aug 14 #59

Why aren't the public statements of the chairman of a terrorist political bureau "compelling"? lapucelle Aug 14 #61

Because they're bluster and because he's dead. Orrex Aug 14 #63

October 7 was the invasion-genocidal-rape-torture-murder on a massive scale event. lapucelle Aug 14 #64

How long are Bibi's cheerleaders going to play that card? Orrex Aug 14 #65

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"John Kirby: What Hamas wants, make no mistake about it, is genocide" lapucelle Aug 14 #67

When you get to the point of replying with vid clips, you've declared that you have nothing to add Orrex Aug 14 #68

The OP is a video clip. lapucelle Aug 14 #69

The OP is starting a discussion; your post attempted to end it Orrex Aug 14 #70

Now the argument is "Hamas has no agency"? lapucelle Aug 14 #71

Oh FFS Orrex Aug 14 #73

So to recap... lapucelle Aug 14 #74

"stop parroting patently false propaganda" Dave Bowman Aug 14 #75

Which part is "patently false propaganda"? lapucelle Aug 15 #80

I feel sorry for you, eventually you'll have a rude awakening. Or not, I'm not sure which would be worse. Dave Bowman Aug 15 #83

Yes, well, there you have it. Now back to the matter at hand: which part is "patently false propaganda"? lapucelle Aug 15 #86

That's not the position of Israel. EdmondDantes_ Aug 15 #82

Deseret News is a right wing website owned by the Church of the Latter Day Saints. lapucelle Aug 15 #85

Good Morning Britain, the morning news programme on ITV in Britain; NBC muriel_volestrangler Aug 15 #79

The confiscation of cans of a powdered substance found in people's luggage lapucelle Aug 15 #81

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Are Jews responsible? sarisataka Aug 14 #19

Israelis ARE responsible because their government is responsible. Some are stepping up to protest, which is great. ihaveaquestion Aug 14 #22

My comment angrychair Aug 14 #29

No it is not sarisataka Aug 14 #42

No, it's not angrychair Aug 14 #50

I never said the word antisemitic sarisataka Aug 14 #52

Medhi Hasan cannot comprehend why cans of a powdered substance lapucelle Aug 14 #43

Genocide is acceptable now apparently. live love laugh Aug 14 #18

Only of the "right" people. The powerless and "inconvenient" others.. AloeVera Aug 14 #58

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Blood lust??? murielm99 Aug 14 #49

Wait. Are you talking about Jews? lapucelle Aug 14 #55

As you noted at the accusation is explicit sarisataka Aug 14 #56

This continues Netanyahu's years-long campaign of deliberate civilian murder Orrex Aug 14 #28

War Crimes Trials NOW!!!!!!! Chasstev365 Aug 14 #30

It's a war crime to confiscate cans of a powdered substance lapucelle Aug 14 #44

Seriously? Infants dying is NOT a thing to be snarky about! Chasstev365 Aug 14 #45

This is a just demand. David__77 Aug 15 #77

I have a dispassioniate but important question Mossfern Aug 14 #32

Under-nourished women cannot breast feed an infant effectively. ihaveaquestion Aug 14 #34

Mothers' milk has dried up for many months now. AloeVera Aug 14 #60

The point is to starve babies to death. iemanja Aug 14 #35

Starving women can't produce milk questionseverything Aug 14 #40

This is so maddening. I'm speechless. 🤬 Dave Bowman Aug 14 #36

Just.Fucking.Evil. Scalded Nun Aug 14 #38

If the repugs weren't supporting Israel - Nigrum Cattus Aug 14 #39

Unfortunately there are plenty of democrats supporting Israel no matter what they do questionseverything Aug 14 #41

It's shocking and sickening that people are downplaying this on DU. Chasstev365 Aug 14 #46

Yeah, just reading some replies in this thread is nauseating. Dave Bowman Aug 15 #76

There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people. Howard Zinn Ping Tung Aug 14 #54

It's clear that for months Israel blocked entry of baby formula along with other food. Starving babies was the point. David__77 Aug 15 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author cliffside Aug 15 #84

For those asking for more info on this there are US doctors who have spoken out on this issue ... cliffside Aug 15 #87