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Martin68

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37. No, the original sin was voting against the removal of Trump from office after his first impeachment.

Wed May 21, 2025, 02:58 PM

May 21

Trump's first impeachment took place after a formal House inquiry found that he had solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election to help his re-election bid, and had then obstructed the inquiry itself by telling his administration officials to ignore subpoenas for documents and testimony. The inquiry reported that Trump withheld military aid and an invitation to the White House from Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy in order to influence Ukraine to announce an investigation into Trump's political opponent Joe Biden, and to promote a discredited conspiracy theory that Ukraine–⁠not Russia–⁠was behind interference in the 2016 presidential election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump

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Annoys me when David Frum is right [View all] irisblue May 21 OP

Frum's been right on a lot of things for a while now. Tommy Carcetti May 21 #1

Yes, I've been surprised at how often I have agreed with PatSeg May 21 #23

Ditto Bill Kristol and Joe Walsh. nt Tommy Carcetti May 21 #31

Oh yes, Bill Kristol PatSeg May 21 #32

And George Conway and Amanda Carpenter True Dough May 21 #43

Me too, also as a long time DC metro resident. Yoyoyo77 May 21 #41

You know, I haven't seen Garland's name mentioned for a while. Wonder what he's up to? sop May 21 #2

Counting his rubles and laughing to the bank. Irish_Dem May 21 #3

I find that scenario... feasible. OldBaldy1701E May 21 #18

How come trmp hasn't gone after Garland???? spanone May 21 #25

Curious minds....already have a good idea! BComplex May 22 #54

We all know, eh? spanone May 22 #56

So sad to contemplate this truth La Coliniere May 21 #4

Agree--that this is why we're here Picaro May 21 #5

Nope. The original sin was the Republican Party not impeaching him. chowder66 May 21 #6

That was their choice which our leadership could not control. Big Blue Marble May 21 #7

Original sin, as far as trump goes, Mtnmama May 21 #14

The Republican Party DENVERPOPS May 21 #20

How this never happened I'll never know D_Master81 May 21 #8

It happened because Biden picked Garland as AG Mr.WeRP May 21 #22

As far a Trump is concerned, the original sin was the failure of the Congress to impeach him. scarletlib May 21 #9

Congress DID impeach him. MLWR May 21 #12

I stand corrected. He was impeached twice. scarletlib May 22 #55

Not just slavery; also genocide. ananda May 21 #10

He's not wrong.... Trump should have been sent to Guantanamo JCMach1 May 21 #11

I feel exactly the same way about Frum. BobTheSubgenius May 21 #13

The original sin was electing Trump the first time PJMcK May 21 #15

Well, he's not right if he thinks that was the "original" sin. He's one of the people who built the road to Trump JHB May 21 #16

It's the original sin of the Trump era, what put us here now, not of the history of the U.S. n/t elocs May 21 #17

At the very least.... LisaM May 21 #19

Frum has been very good for a while now roscoeroscoe May 21 #21

Annoys you? Are you happier for him to be wrong? . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #24

and yet, not quite. barbtries May 21 #26

In the Age of Trump . . . peggysue2 May 21 #27

I know. Figarosmom May 21 #28

Garland was Trump's accomplice North Coast Lawyer May 21 #29

There is plenty of blame to go around democrank May 21 #30

frum hunger poozwah May 21 #33

Recommended. H2O Man May 21 #34

Yeah, it's not that impressive to be right like that. maxsolomon May 21 #35

I place the blame squarely on Moscow Mitch. He had two opportunities to shelve this alwaysinasnit May 21 #36

No, the original sin was voting against the removal of Trump from office after his first impeachment. Martin68 May 21 #37

A fav of mine from Frum... Grins May 21 #38

WHY is someone who never conceded and tried to overthrow the government allowed to run at all? Skittles May 21 #39

I'll take it.. Mahalo, irisblue & David Frum! Cha May 21 #40

You're all wrong. Gimpyknee May 21 #42

It's Obama's Fault? ProfessorGAC May 21 #44

Absolutely. Gimpyknee May 21 #45

"many say" Orrex May 22 #47

Just Google it. Gimpyknee May 22 #48

"many say" lots of things. And many then say "just Google it." Orrex May 22 #49

And some just choose to remain ignorant. Gimpyknee May 22 #52

Yeah, but don't feel bad. Orrex May 22 #53

I'll risk the hide and say it GusBob May 22 #50

It's Mary Anne MacLeod's fault for not throwing him in a woodchipper 77 years ago. Orrex May 22 #46

Nope. Failure to charge Bush and Cheney with war crimes leftstreet May 22 #57

Republicans closed ranks quickly at that time. 'Not a coup, no insurrection, tourists, no violence.' bucolic_frolic May 22 #51