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Sympthsical

(10,729 posts)
40. Politicians are trying to immunize themselves from what was a genuine scandal
Mon May 19, 2025, 11:10 AM
May 2025

Reality has a way of outing itself despite the most vigorous denial.

When friends and I were discussing all this last summer, I said, "It's going to be really interesting once the inevitable books start coming out next year." And here we are. It was always going to surface, because it was far too big - and far too obvious - a story.

There were legitimate questions about just what on earth was going on and who was actually running the country if the President's schedule was as compromised as it was. Don't get me wrong, whatever was going on behind closed doors resulted in some great policies. But it is still not ok to obfuscate, stonewall, and subvert the public's right to know how capable their President is. And saying, "But Trump . . ." doesn't cut it. That just brings us down to Trump's level. "Well, Trump's a lunatic, so whatever we do is fine, too." That really cannot be our message as a party.

I know this space didn't want to engage these questions and realities (and still doesn't despite the fact the rest of the country has already acknowledged all this, and it's now baked into the national narrative), but our politicians know this has to be dispensed with before 26/28. So they're saying, "Yep, that was a problem. Should've never happened. Anyway, swiftly moving on."

Which is the smart play for a situation we never - ever - should've allowed ourselves to get into.

Reality-based community. We're supposed to be that. We cannot run good campaigns if we cannot be that.

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do democrats employ PR people? pimpbot May 2025 #1
It drives me nuts. All the GOP has to do is play videos of Democrats telling everyone how awful Vinca May 2025 #2
Oh shut up, displacedvermoter May 2025 #3
Probably a sign his fund raising sucks. Nt BootinUp May 2025 #4
What does hopping on the "diss Biden" bandwagon buy Dems? woodsprite May 2025 #5
He's my senator and I like him a lot. We don't like what he has to say but he is not our enemy. CTyankee May 2025 #6
He's no longer a Dem contender for '28. He needs to learn to keep his mouth. shut... brush May 2025 #8
Why do some people seem kacekwl May 2025 #19
Exactly. Poor judgement, not presidential material becase of it. brush May 2025 #59
He's an old guy. I have great sympathy for him. CTyankee May 2025 #36
it is so unfortunate that Democrats are human stillcool May 2025 #31
It's not something people want to hear here JBTaurus83 May 2025 #7
Why do we need to talk about it pretty much nonstop displacedvermoter May 2025 #15
I don't disagree. JBTaurus83 May 2025 #16
Clinton and Obama TheProle May 2025 #49
People don't want to hear this either Tom Rinaldo May 2025 #17
Republicans are very good at not answering questions mcar May 2025 #22
The swing voters Democrats count on care more about non evasiveness... Tom Rinaldo May 2025 #35
Still doesn't mean you have to trash your own president in an interview mcar May 2025 #55
Maybe some day Biden will be as mentally well as Trump. travelingthrulife May 2025 #26
Agree. People want an echo chamber. BannonsLiver May 2025 #27
Yep, at times this site is bizarro world fujiyamasan May 2025 #57
Yes, the sports thing Newsom got into hot water over is a prime example. BannonsLiver May 2025 #63
Yea angrychair May 2025 #80
Just like Hillary's emails were the biggest scandal """outside of our DU bubble.""" W_HAMILTON May 2025 #53
If this guy is a contender for 2028, he just lost my support. SheltieLover May 2025 #9
Same. Quiet Em May 2025 #12
He needs to be primaried, imo, as all who have dissed Joe do SheltieLover May 2025 #13
My 2 cents.. Sun-Moon May 2025 #10
YouGov poll - 19 million who voted for Biden in 2020 stayed home womanofthehills May 2025 #37
If only... AloeVera May 2025 #87
They did not consider the alternative. usonian May 2025 #94
Bad answer, Senator. Quiet Em May 2025 #11
Harris needed to break with Biden on Israel womanofthehills May 2025 #38
And the bandwagon continues to slowly fill k_buddy762 May 2025 #14
Winning elections. everyonematters May 2025 #18
Voters aren't holding Democrats responsible Keepthesoulalive May 2025 #29
We need to stop blaming everything on the media. everyonematters May 2025 #48
We need to continue to blame everything on the media Keepthesoulalive May 2025 #50
The end game is the Dems have to listen more to their constituents womanofthehills May 2025 #41
There was no vote on sending weapons to Israel. Your senators voted "yes" on a motion to discharge. lapucelle May 2025 #82
What he said wasn't unknown by anyone with eyes to see. harumph May 2025 #20
Your post is a reasonable response to this issue. But politics, unfortunately, don't seem to be "reasonable." CTyankee May 2025 #39
Yeah, my wife and I were discussing that very problem this morning. harumph May 2025 #54
Ginsburg serbbral May 2025 #74
No, in her case, I was just referring to her age and diagnosis. harumph May 2025 #88
Good point serbbral May 20 #97
Is this necessary, Chris? mcar May 2025 #21
What a great time for this, Senator Murphy! MineralMan May 2025 #23
Shut Rebl2 May 2025 #24
+1000. Paladin May 2025 #32
I don't understand Rebl2 May 2025 #45
Why do they respond like this?? Clearly the administration was being well led. travelingthrulife May 2025 #25
The truth hurts sometimes. BannonsLiver May 2025 #28
Tell the truth about trumps Keepthesoulalive May 2025 #30
Several issues that stand out in Murphy's narrative IzzaNuDay May 2025 #33
I think the Dem party needs to look at itself womanofthehills May 2025 #44
No kidding Ponietz May 2025 #46
Strongly agree! It KILLS me that we lost against the two absolute worst candidates in history vanessa_ca May 2025 #86
Guess he's no longer considered a Presidential candidate in 2028. Silent Type May 2025 #34
People are going to end up with a real short primary list at this rate Sympthsical May 2025 #42
I know a lot of people here would rather play ostrich fujiyamasan May 2025 #79
Politicians are trying to immunize themselves from what was a genuine scandal Sympthsical May 2025 #40
Of all the things Murphy could have said... LuckyCharms May 2025 #43
How do we convey to Dem. electeds and yorkster May 2025 #47
Monday Morning quarterbacking in public serves no purpose Raven123 May 2025 #51
Anyone who uttered a peep was absolutely savaged at the time Sympthsical May 2025 #52
Do all the discussions you want Raven123 May 2025 #71
Absolutely not Sympthsical May 2025 #73
We will have to agree to disagree Raven123 May 2025 #75
I've just lost respect for Senator Murphy dlk May 2025 #56
Biden's halting debate performance was unexpected andym May 2025 #58
The point is that Biden was the most successful President in recent history Ritabert May 2025 #60
Dean Phillips was the only Democratic member of Congress with the courage to speak up when it mattered Jose Garcia May 2025 #61
Phillips was the target of attacks here for daring to mount a primary challenge. MichMan May 2025 #84
I have a newfound respect for him fujiyamasan May 23 #98
Is Murphy or any other politician (or aide) who are shitting on our last President a neurologist or a gerontologist? chowder66 May 2025 #62
While I tend to agree that Biden should have made his decision not to run before the 2022 midterms, lees1975 May 2025 #64
The party needs a house cleaning Sympthsical May 2025 #66
It does. lees1975 May 2025 #67
Very ill-advised statement Ms. Toad May 2025 #65
This is probably true! MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #69
I'm doing a lot of that today, for some reason . . . Ms. Toad May 2025 #70
It truly brightened my very drab day. MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #89
That's why I left it - Ms. Toad May 2025 #90
Is totalitarianism enough of a change for you? MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #68
They couldn't give Joe Biden even 24 hours before StarryNite May 2025 #72
No Surprise About Murphy serbbral May 2025 #76
Why are we disgussing this? What about the obvious mental decline in the current WH resident???? marble falls May 2025 #77
"cognitive decline" is a very broad phrase that Democrats should steer clear of. ecstatic May 2025 #78
Murphy just lost my vote. ananda May 2025 #81
It would be so much better if people actually listened to Murphy's whole interview rather than knee jerking Nanjeanne May 2025 #83
Note to Dems in Congress: DON'T PLAY THIS GAME! NEVER! Hekate May 2025 #85
It seems that any Democrat who dares to question President Biden's fitness gets automatically totodeinhere May 2025 #91
BIDEN IS NOT PRESIDENT NOW & WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT LAST YEAR Hekate May 2025 #95
The only valid response to similar questions from journalists is misanthrope May 2025 #92
Damn straight Hekate May 2025 #96
Was that when he... Chemical Bill May 2025 #93
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