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Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy says 'no doubt' Biden suffered cognitive decline while in office
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/14/murphy-biden-cognitive-decline-2028-00349025
Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., during a Homeland Security Secretary Subcommittee hearing. | Julia Demaree Nikhinson/AP
Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy said there’s “no doubt” that former President Joe Biden suffered cognitive decline in office and that it would have been better for the party if he hadn’t run for reelection.
“There’s no doubt about it,” said the Connecticut senator when asked by POLITICO if Biden experienced cognitive decline as president. “The debate is whether it was enough that it compromised his ability to act as chief executive.”
Murphy, who is widely viewed as a potential 2028 presidential contender, also said that it would have been helpful to Democrats if Biden had declined to mount a 2024 bid.
“I mean, isn’t that self-evident? We lost,” he quipped. “Obviously, in retrospect, we should have done something different. The likelihood is the odds were pretty stacked against us no matter what, but clearly people were looking for change and neither Biden nor Harris were going to be able to offer a real message of change.”
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pimpbot
(1,086 posts)Good lord are we dumb. We feed right into the dumb media circus. GOP rarely eat thier own.
Every question about Biden should be answered with an attack on Trump. Its not hard.
Vinca
(52,092 posts)they are rather than spend money on campaign ads. Everyone needs to shut up about the past and start talking about the future.
displacedvermoter
(3,791 posts)and, BTW, did Politico ask about Trump's very clear decline and fall? No? What a surprise!
BootinUp
(49,831 posts)
woodsprite
(12,437 posts)I’m sick of it. It does the party and the country absolutely no good when they make statements like that, especially when Biden had one of the most successful administrations and countrywide recovery. Biden deserves credit and praise for what he accomplished after Trump&Co torched the place with their greed and incompetence.
CTyankee
(66,231 posts)Let's see what he has to say going forward. As far as I know, he's a good guy. I say give him a chance.
brush
(59,990 posts)and stop furthering the rethug adgenda. How dumb can you get.
kacekwl
(8,292 posts)to lack common sense ? STFU already.
brush
(59,990 posts)CTyankee
(66,231 posts)I think we can cut him a bit of slack here. I think he probably should have realized his situation earlier. That would have been ideal. But the world isn't ideal. I think we should be kind to him.
stillcool
(33,933 posts)for some reason Republicans don't need to worry about that. Truly amazing how many Democrats get run out of town by Democrats, with an assist from media coverage of a sound-byte 24/7.
JBTaurus83
(420 posts)But it’s the truth. I applaud the senator. Outside of our DU bubble, this was evident to everyone.
displacedvermoter
(3,791 posts)as it is getting discussed to no end everywhere else? Again, when the current president is so clearly a shambles, why is Joe Biden now such a worthy target? What do we gain from it?
Hell, why not attack Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama? They are still pretty hated outside of our "DU bubble"?
JBTaurus83
(420 posts)
TheProle
(3,364 posts)didn't go on The View two weeks ago and take blame for Trump's election.
Tom Rinaldo
(23,108 posts)Some ask, why do Democrats have to talk about this? Often they don't, and often they shouldn't. But it is a national news story that is relevant today because Tapper is releasing his book about this, which means many people are talking about it, which means leading Democrats will be asked direct questions about it. I abhor grandstanding about this, but I don't think Murphy was. I think it hurts us more if Democrats are obviously evasive in response to direct questions about this. And it hurts worse if they are dishonest about what they know or believe to be true.
And I have to hope that, behind closed doors to the extent possible and realistic, that top Democrats are evaluating whether any poorly advised efforts were made by some to shield the public from getting a realistic picture of Biden's capacity going forward, as in his capacity to serve 4 years of a second term near the top of his game - which is what the Presidency requires, especially at the onset of a full term. It would be irresponsible to not evaluate this now in hindsight. That is how future mistakes get avoided.
mcar
(44,671 posts)asked by the media. Instead they repeat their talking points.
Democrats are still laboring under the delusion that MSM reporters are on their side and that it would be impolite to not respond to a question.
Tom Rinaldo
(23,108 posts)... than the voters Republicans count on to win. It is part of the Democratic brand, what helps set us apart in many voters minds. We are the Party that believes in government, and in accountable public servants.
mcar
(44,671 posts)A decent talking point would have turned the issue - even something like "The Democratic party is looking ahead. Here are some of the things we're doing..."
travelingthrulife
(2,370 posts)How does it help anything for him to say this?
BannonsLiver
(19,156 posts)Murphy is 100 percent right.
fujiyamasan
(185 posts)Not only does it not reflect the electorate at large, it barely even reflects the party as a whole.
BannonsLiver
(19,156 posts)76 percent of Dems agree with him on the issue. But not here. 🙄
angrychair
(10,641 posts)Horrible that the so-called senile old dying man, everyone seems to love to shit on now, lead us out of a horrible pandemic and financial crisis and created an economy that was the envy of the world.
The disserve and shaming of this wonderful, kind human being, that overcame death and tragedy to serve the public good, is now nothing more but news flotsam used by total strangers to humiliate him and his accomplishments.
The disrespect is stunning.
W_HAMILTON
(9,022 posts)Fact of the fucking matter is that Joe Biden led us out of the pandemic and into the best-performing economy in the entire world, and we all could finally rest easy at night knowing our country was in stable, safe hands and no longer experiencing the day-to-day chaos that has now been BOTH Trump administrations.
Too bad the fucking idiots """outside of our DU bubble""" couldn't have recognized the value in this like we did and before they reelected the dipshit and then damn near immediately regretted their votes/non-votes as they re-realized why they and the rest of us voted him out to begin with.
SheltieLover
(68,387 posts)
Terrible and wrong answer.
SheltieLover
(68,387 posts)Jmo
Sun-Moon
(177 posts)Internally - the Democratic Party should take a deep dive on why we lost our the 2024 Presidential election and learn from the hard truths.
Outwardly- I would like the messaging to the American People to inform the people what the Biden- Harris administration accomplished. When asked should have Joe Biden … fill in the blanks , maybe the response should be that the administration did this and that and only cared about the well being of people. We lost and we will do a better job to share the vision of America and explain the policies to help all the people have better lives and we are listening.
Or something like that.
We can’t change the past, but we can learn and do better.
womanofthehills
(9,796 posts)Main reason given - genocide.
The young are very anti war - look at all the protests all over the world.
AloeVera
(2,833 posts)If only their message was taken seriously. Even within the Democratic Party, that war was and is unpopular. The genocide is clearer now, but it was clear to the young and those paying attention. I hope the party will do some serious self-reflection on its "unwavering" support for a state that is now a pariah.
usonian
(17,862 posts)One-issue voters so swayed by propaganda (and plenty was circulated by Russia, verified) as to negate their own cause.
FAFO resulting in mass destruction of Gaza. Sure Joe had bad optics, but he had people moderating his position. Trump has only RW extremists.
https://m.
My dad did that. He was pissed off over some intra-party feud involving Bobby Kennedy that he turned right. Sound familiar?
Quiet Em
(1,945 posts)And taking a swipe at Harris too?
I no longer consider him to be a serious option. We have a deep and talented bench. This ain't it.
womanofthehills
(9,796 posts)She would have won if she did. So - then we get Trump lying -calling himself the peace candidate.
k_buddy762
(263 posts)to what end? What is the game plan here? More and more are coming out to voice this opinion. What's the end game?
everyonematters
(3,812 posts)Voters are holding the party at large responsible for a coverup in their minds. If we don't admit there was a coverup, then it hurts us in elections. The politicians are reluctant to admit it because they fear a backlash from us.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,336 posts)The media is doing a hatchet job on dems and not holding the craziest man on the planet who is destroying the country responsible. If they held Cheeto to the same standard they are holding Joe maybe we wouldn’t be so screwed stop carrying republican water and call out assholes decline whenever they want to talk about Joe.
everyonematters
(3,812 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(1,336 posts)They gave asshole tons of free publicity in his first run , they hung on his every crazy word.
The second run they gave him town halls and did not hold him accountable for his words. He wants to have a tribunal against Obama. Hold trump accountable and then we can worry about Joe. The media is the problem .they are the gatekeepers. How about reporting the threats he is making against anyone who speaks up, how he is destroying the economy with his ridiculous tariffs, insider trading, stock market manipulation, selling access, insane ramblings on truth social, no help for the people who have been impacted by the storms I’m the Midwest, destroying FEMA and NOAA, and giving tax breaks to billionaires while he takes food and medicine from the poorest people in our country. This is what we need the press to focus on, not someone who on his worst day was more cognizant than this cretin we have in office now.
womanofthehills
(9,796 posts)Here in NM our senators voted against sending weapons to Israel - now many Senators who voted to send weapons are being harassed when they are in public.
I glad to live in a state with some of the best representatives of the Dem party.
lapucelle
(20,219 posts)It was a procedural vote
If the motion had passed, the bill would have been taken out of committee for floor debate.
No senators voted to send weapons to Israel in the procedural vote you're referencing.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00165.htm#state
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00166.htm
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As for the endgame, it's up to us to shut down false anti-Democratic Party talking points and to educate folks who have no idea how Congress works.
harumph
(2,739 posts)People are however justifiably upset about flogging the dead horse. I don't like it either.
That said, it's happened before with other democrats and republicans. Feinstein anyone? She was objectively unfit to serve. Look at McConell, who basically mini-stroked on camera; twice. And look at how Ginsburg stayed in the game too long after a frank conversation with Obama. The terrible thing is - whether people here like to admit it or not - is that when you're mentally compromised, you lose perspective on your own limits of service. Frankly, there needs to be a non-partisan medical officer or a medical officer board. Really non-partisan - set in stone high qualifications - not like the surgeon general. Does not "answer" to the president. An office that can make unbiased transparent-to-the-public recommendations on whether politicians are fit to serve. One's fitness to serve should transcend political considerations. If there were such an office and it had teeth, it would incentivize the party to run younger candidates.
CTyankee
(66,231 posts)the problem here is that you know and I know Trump would never comply to any such "medical officer or board of officers."
harumph
(2,739 posts)Such an agency or office would have to be implemented under a democratic administration with majorities in both houses of congress. If we're ever able to manage that - there are still other new, better and more durable guardrails that must be
implemented. We have too many loop holes, workarounds and badly drafted laws that permit, if not encourage corrupt behavior. If we can't remedy those problems corruption wins - barring some horrific catastrophe that forces a change in the status quo. Sometimes I fear that constitutional level change is required and then we're talking Article V with the danger that there will be more crazy seeking ideologues pushing the changes than reasonable people. It is hard work trying to stay hopeful.
I think her situation was somewhat different than the others. Although she was going to retire, at the time, we really needed her to stay in. Besides her physical health, I do not know of her mental capacity being compromised. She seemed very mentally sharp in my opinion. Were there any complaints about her mental capacity?
harumph
(2,739 posts)It was noted that she was "slowing down" a bit, but her
mental faculties did not seem much affected. That said, had she retired when suggested, a younger liberal justice could have
been appointed.
mcar
(44,671 posts)Do you really need to join the pile-on? Really?
MineralMan
(149,109 posts)
the hell up Murphy. Same goes for all the other democrats that came out with this crap in the last week, like Beto, Buttigieg.
Whatever cognitive decline Biden suffered, he was and still is ten times better a president than trump will ever dream of being. Democratic leadership needs to lay off the Biden criticism, right fucking now.
Rebl2
(16,389 posts)why they are coming out of the woodwork now with this crap! They should effing keep the big mouth’s SHUT!
travelingthrulife
(2,370 posts)Now I am not liking Murphy as a candidate.
So stupid to fall for this bait.
BannonsLiver
(19,156 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(1,336 posts)Crazy. Joe is not the president, trump is and he is an incoherent mess but they hang onto his every word go to his crazy signings and act like he is not destroying the country. They are not telling the American public the truth about trump, just more bullshit.
IzzaNuDay
(968 posts)1) This topic on Biden’s cognitive decline is water long from under the bridge, it’s past tense. There is nothing more to say!!!!!
2) Murphy should be instead focusing on resisting the word salad and cognitive decline of the person currently in office.
3) If Murphy thought his narrative was going to make him look desirable as a presidential candidate, then he F’d up royally.
womanofthehills
(9,796 posts)To see why it was so easy for a buffoon to win. The kids were marching in the streets every weekend- did they think they did not need the young vote?
Ponietz
(3,745 posts)
vanessa_ca
(157 posts)Bush II and Trump. 4 times! The 2 worst ones! And we still keep thinking that refusing to examine ourselves and banking on Anybody but X is a winning strategy.
Silent Type
(9,599 posts)Sympthsical
(10,606 posts)People who say this is disqualifying are about to find themselves with maybe one person on that ballot they can vote for by the time this is all said and done. None of the major candidates are going to keep holding the line. There's no longer any political incentive to do so.
fujiyamasan
(185 posts)but it’s getting more obvious that Biden’s inner circle was shielding him from just about everyone — the press, constituents, hell even his own cabinet.
It’s going to be harder for elected democrats to just say everything was just fine. We heard that repeatedly for the last several years and here we are.
Sympthsical
(10,606 posts)Reality has a way of outing itself despite the most vigorous denial.
When friends and I were discussing all this last summer, I said, "It's going to be really interesting once the inevitable books start coming out next year." And here we are. It was always going to surface, because it was far too big - and far too obvious - a story.
There were legitimate questions about just what on earth was going on and who was actually running the country if the President's schedule was as compromised as it was. Don't get me wrong, whatever was going on behind closed doors resulted in some great policies. But it is still not ok to obfuscate, stonewall, and subvert the public's right to know how capable their President is. And saying, "But Trump . . ." doesn't cut it. That just brings us down to Trump's level. "Well, Trump's a lunatic, so whatever we do is fine, too." That really cannot be our message as a party.
I know this space didn't want to engage these questions and realities (and still doesn't despite the fact the rest of the country has already acknowledged all this, and it's now baked into the national narrative), but our politicians know this has to be dispensed with before 26/28. So they're saying, "Yep, that was a problem. Should've never happened. Anyway, swiftly moving on."
Which is the smart play for a situation we never - ever - should've allowed ourselves to get into.
Reality-based community. We're supposed to be that. We cannot run good campaigns if we cannot be that.
LuckyCharms
(20,046 posts)Of all of the things available right now to criticize...
As our country goes down the shitter...
He criticizes private citizen Biden. Who did one hell of an amazing job as president.
Why?
Because he can't handle Trump, that's why.
I'll never fucking understand this horseshit.
yorkster
(3,097 posts)possible 2028 nominees that they should cease the Biden bashing. It is especially unseemly given the weekend news. Not only that, but why go there when the R's
are only too eager to excoriate the former president. Leave it to them.
Disappointed in Sen. Murphy. It's as though
they all feel they have to check the Biden basher box to have legitimacy. Murphy got in a Harris bash as well. Nice going, Senator.
Raven123
(6,687 posts)I just hope these folks are asking themselves why they didn’t address their concerns before the campaign started. If they weren’t willing or able to be honest with Joe then, I have serious concerns about their speaking out now.
Personally, I find this disrespectful to Joe. I’m angry.
Sympthsical
(10,606 posts)Why would a Democratic politician bring that down on themselves during an election year?
The question isn't "Why didn't they say anything?" The real question is why we were so very willing to do the savaging. Particularly when actual polls of Democratic voters were begging the party not to take the course it did.
As far as Monday morning quarterbacking, doesn't that serve a useful function? To look at the game footage, see the mistakes made, and discuss ways to not make those same mistakes in the next game? If anything I think we, as a party, have a deficit at asking these questions. Hell, we can barely acknowledge mistakes after major losses. You see, the problems weren't that maybe Biden shouldn't have run. Harris' campaign was "flawless" according to her campaign staff. Everything was done as perfectly as it could be.
Once people have convinced themselves that everything was done perfectly, I think others have an absolute duty to Monday morning quarterback. We need people to say, "No no. It's over. These bad narratives need to be shattered now. As vigorously as possible."
When the narrative is "It's everyone else's fault except the people in charge!" that is a topsy turvy position to take. Yet it's the main narrative here. It's got some real CEO golden parachute energy to it. All the little people just don't understand the greatness.
It's a little unDemocratic for my taste.
Raven123
(6,687 posts)Just keep it in house.
Sympthsical
(10,606 posts)Politicians must signal to voters that they understand the problems.
Only within very insular enclaves did this "No problems here!" narrative take hold, while everyone else in the country was looking at each other going, "Do they really think no one can see it?"
Politicians who want to be taken seriously on the national stage absolutely have to get out there and say, "Yeah, I saw it."
Bare minimum. It's a credibility issue at this point, which is precisely why politicians with aspirations suddenly seem eager to have the discussion.
Raven123
(6,687 posts)IMO, there is no credibility gained by public apologies that conveniently coincide with the publication of Jake Tapper’s book, in the face a disaster of a budget proposal which should be the topic for discussion, not to mention the news of Biden’s cancer.
This is not leadership. It may be honest, but it does not serve the party, or the country.
dlk
(12,639 posts)Last edited Mon May 19, 2025, 05:46 PM - Edit history (1)
Bashing Biden at thus late stage has disqualified Murphy, in my view, to be president. There’s nothing to be gained other than a view into Murphy’s moral character, and it is, sadly, lacking.
As Trump shows himself to becoming more and more unhinged, we have Democrats who choose this particular time to bash Joe Biden.
andym
(5,970 posts)especially after a good State of the Union address. Decline in older folks often is not linear and varies on even a daily basis. Joe thought he could go another 4 years, but he misread his own decline which happens frequently, and he misread the political tea leaves that people wanted change (especially economic)-- the change message typically wins when there is any kind of economic problem, and inflation was clearly affecting people daily. Trump represents chaotic change, but too many voters dismissed the chaos part, because they felt his first term damage did not harm them sufficiently economically. They are now learning a lesson. They would have fared better under Joe even given his current state, because change was actually not needed-- as Bill Clinton stated last year, whoever was the next President would benefit from the recovering economy, even if they did nothing.
Senator Murphy is just stating the reality--he's not doing it to hurt Joe, but to admit he was wrong last February when he stood up for Biden's mental capacity-- he is basically admitting his own misjudgment. He seemed as surprised as everyone by Biden's debate demeanor.
Ritabert
(1,094 posts)Yes he should have said he wasn't running back in 2023 so a primary process could occur. However we still slept soundly at night unlike now. I still contend that they weren't going to let a Democrat be elected no matter who it was. Project 2025 has been in the works for 44 years and they weren't letting their chance go by.
Jose Garcia
(3,198 posts)The party owes him an apology.
MichMan
(15,189 posts)Those posters owe him one as well
fujiyamasan
(185 posts)I never believed he launched his primary campaign out of vanity or spite, but like most I thought primarying a sitting president would weaken him. Phillips seemed genuine in his concern of Trump returning to power.
chowder66
(10,571 posts)https://www.nbcnews.com/health/bidens-memory-issues-draw-attention-neurologists-weigh-rcna138135
Is Murphy going by what other's witnessed (are they experts?) or his own expertise in these fields? Is it because Biden is older but maybe had a harder time learning new things and maybe couldn't keep the pace ....but the anonymous witnesses discounted all of the knowledge he has and which he relied on to navigate some to the newer ideas/policies/issues at hand? Could it be that they ran Biden ragged?
I recommend reading the two linked articles from PBS and NBC about aging and the brain.
lees1975
(6,559 posts)which was something on the table when he ran, and was elected, that was a discussion that should have taken place then.
Had that been something we knew from the start, we could have avoided the weeks of panic and political exposure that occurred following the first debate, which I see as being responsible for the election loss in 2024.
The Presidency is a job that takes a clear physical and mental toll on its occupants. There's visible stress on younger men, so it's hard to imagine the stress on a 78 year old. Trump wears a lot of makeup, when you see what he looks like without it, back in 2016 compared to 2024, it's quite a change. And dementia is difficult to discern in him, since he's an emotional and psychological cripple, and hasn't ever been particularly coherent or mentally healthy.
I don't know what's going on with Democrats right now, hard to put a finger on it.
Sympthsical
(10,606 posts)The reformers see it, but many powerful people whose interests have long rested on the status quo are reluctant to admit problems (namely because their own role in those problems will come under sharp question).
So now there's this tension. People who see the obvious and people who insist there were no problems - merely unfortunate outcomes due to unforeseeable outside forces.
I don't know when this reckoning is going to arrive - and this stuff with Biden is just the Lexington of the matter - but I really hope it's sooner rather than later. I hope people like Buttigieg, who sees things with great clarity, can articulate persuasively the case that the entire party, top to bottom, needs a course correct.
If people cannot observe with some detachment the events, choices, and narratives that led to 2024 and the position we're currently in and understand this can never happen again, I'm not sure what hope there is. We're going to lose more power nationally after the 2030 census. We need to have a plan for it. And people are still running around politically like it's the 1990s. It is baffling. Maybe that's a function and indictment of the gerontocratic status quo system that's held unassailable power in the party for so long.
But it cannot persist. Either we take it upon ourselves to change the party, or 2030 will do that for us. But people aren't going to sit down and shut up anymore. That ship is soooooooo over the horizon.
lees1975
(6,559 posts)And in spite of the savaging that David Hogg has taken in advocating for change, he's 100% correct.
The only Democrats actually rallying the party toward unity are Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Everyone else is hunkered down, sending out their fundraising appeals for the mid-terms, describing themselves as the best option for the money when it comes to defeating Trumpers, and protecting their own turf if they're a potential 2028 Presidential hopeful. None of that is what we need now.
Ms. Toad
(36,972 posts)It feeds into Trump's vague threats to prosecute Trump.
The time for questioning whether Biden should have dropped out earlier is long past. I have always believed he should not have run for a second term, but in my opinion the time for questioning that was before the primaries started, not after they were over.
This response goes well beyond questioning whether he should have dropped out (and, if so, and when), to questioning whether he was competent to govern during the remainder of his term. There is zero benefit to Democrats to navel gazing on that front. Whether he was, or not, has no bearing on where we go from here. All that suggesting he might not have been competent during his presidency does is to encourage Republicans who need no encouragement to go after him.
I do think we need to learn from the past so we don't repeat it - but Harris is the one who lost. It is her candidacy (and failure to distinguish herself form Biden on the Middle East and the economy) that we need to examine. Examining Biden's competence to govern, or even if/when to drop out, does not make it any more likely that we will win in the future.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,018 posts)"It feeds into Trump's vague threats to prosecute Trump."
Thanks, I needed that.
Ms. Toad
(36,972 posts)I've been catching a lot of double words that I've been typing, when the second should have been different. I think I've caught most of them, but obviously not this one.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,018 posts) Ms. Toad
(36,972 posts)I figured it might cheer someone else up, too.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,018 posts)
StarryNite
(11,552 posts)they start in on him again. Now even one of our potential front runners thinks it's okay to pile on. WTAF?!
Shut up, Murphy! You just outed yourself. Well I guess it's better we know what he's like now.
serbbral
(317 posts)Personally, I find it interesting that many are surprised by his comments. I, too, do not see the need to go on about Joe Biden's mental state now that he is no longer the President. However, Murphy's statements should not come as a surprise to anyone since he was one of the main ones who stated that Biden should step aside from the beginning. He was very vocal from the start.
marble falls
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ecstatic
(34,783 posts)In the broadest sense, Senator Murphy is right. Cognitive decline just refers to a temporary or permanent decrease in the speed and/or ability to execute various tasks or remember things, but many people automatically associate the phrase with dementia. But they're not the same thing.
Btw, this is soooo exhausting. We have an unfit person in office right fucking now. I get it. We are all fucking pissed about everything and everyone that got us here to this moment. But we're here now and we have to focus if we want to come out of this alive. Our To Do List is clear: impeach trump, win the midterms, and hold slimy vance accountable for every fucking thing he does.
The question right now should be: why aren't rethugs impeaching trump over the plane, illegal deportations, illegal and reckless firings, tariffs and all the other gross abuses of power? People are hurting and in danger and refugs are sitting on their asses doing nothing. They won't even hold votes over tariffs and other matters that they have jurisdiction over. It's called dereliction of duty and the media is complicit as well.
ananda
(31,839 posts)Period
Nanjeanne
(6,147 posts)to pieces that are printed to make Dems knee jerk. Murphy speaks very highly of Biden and his accomplishments and his own experience working closely with Biden on gun legislation. He also points out that the audio clip re Biden’s response re Beau’s death is not a fair clip as this is an emotional moment in one’s life. There is no bashing of Biden in this interview. There is a retrospection on should Dems have listened to constituents that wanted a younger nominee and how in retrospect of course it makes sense for Biden to have not run because Dems suffered a loss to a madman - which is valid retrospection on a party's loss. He posits that had they had an open primary Kamala would probably have done very well.
Surely it makes sense looking back to have had more time to develop a strong running platform and a full campaign. Where is the bashing in reviewing what didn’t happen and answering that question with we should have given ourselves a better chance of winning? He doesn’t engage in any discussion of the book. I found nothing disrespectful in Murphys honest responses.
For anyone inclined to listen to the whole interview click https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/sen-chris-murphy-says-you-can-t-defend-what-the-democratic-party-did-in-2024-full-interview-239840837707]
Hekate
(97,786 posts)totodeinhere
(13,616 posts)thrown under the bus at DU. But don't you think that with everything that has come out about the president's condition it is time for DU to finally acknowledge that there is something there? When will the state of denial at DU end?
Hekate
(97,786 posts)You’re not under the bus — nor is anyone else. Just get a grip on the facts, which are:
BIDEN IS NOT PRESIDENT NOW & WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT LAST YEAR
misanthrope
(8,784 posts)"Why does it matter? Unless we are discussing the cognitive decline in the current President, then it is a moot point."
Hekate
(97,786 posts)
Chemical Bill
(2,777 posts)ate Kevin McCarthy's lunch during budget negotiations?