The Way Forward

crimycarny

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16. Good summation

Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:41 PM

Mar 2025

Trump and the GOP are going to do whatever they are going to do regardless, so I think Schumer needs to understand that the Democratic supporters desperately need to see a Democratic party that is going to fight. Just because we won't win doesn't mean you go down without a fight. It's lose-lose, but losing without a fight is worse.

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I'll throw my 2 cents of criticism in here [View all] EarlG Mar 2025 OP

until schumer and the top democratic leadership is removed i will not donate a nickle to them moonshinegnomie Mar 2025 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 2025 #2

Same here. However I am sending Chuck a letter. Raven123 Mar 2025 #25

And the Dems DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #48

Done donating Capperdan Mar 2025 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #58

In MANY ways, Bernie with his progressive populist principles is the most Democratic Democrat in Congress!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #62

AOC as well. choie Mar 2025 #104

I completely agree, AOC is an absolute gem... but let's not forget she was influenced by Our Fearless Leader himself!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #109

Amen moonshine... berksdem Mar 2025 #91

Unfortunately same place Terry_M Mar 2025 #101

Guess what? tRump's already doing whatever the hell he wants, piss poor excuse but hey, its doesn't surprise me if they ImNotGod Mar 2025 #3

Yep...but we're supposed to belive that WITH Gov open Trump can't do anything?? ROFLMMFAO!! Bengus81 Mar 2025 #74

Excellent point! n/t returnee Mar 2025 #100

There have been quite a few Dems with a strong message of resistance to trump... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #4

Good to know! sheshe2 Mar 2025 #8

Why would you mention Warren when I explicitly spoke of the "young"? Think. Again. Mar 2025 #9

I was being facetious... sheshe2 Mar 2025 #15

Oh, I see, you assumed I was saying something I did not say. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #73

Yeah, if there's one thing the Democratic leadership adores doing intheflow Mar 2025 #81

Messaging has been our problem for too long. Deuxcents Mar 2025 #5

The magnitude of Schumer's failure is that it's a double fail... regnaD kciN Mar 2025 #45

Agree. mzmolly Mar 2025 #6

The Dems were not allowed any input to the CR SnoopDog Mar 2025 #7

The gop were fine with a shut down. PortTack Mar 2025 #108

I agree. They're failing badly on unified messaging. highplainsdem Mar 2025 #10

With regard to your last point, I think that's important EarlG Mar 2025 #12

I hope it's not too late for some serious soul searching. democrank Mar 2025 #11

Well said, democrank: Mingle. Listen. Respond. Gather. Organize. Fight. wordstroken Mar 2025 #22

what Dems are talking aboiut imported cheese? All I hear is Dems talking in regular speak about LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #37

I think corporatism and oligarchy are low-hanging fruit here LearnedHand Mar 2025 #103

Schumer just explained that while a CR is terrible, a shutdown would cause a federal court shutdown and ancianita Mar 2025 #13

That doesn't sound unreasonable EarlG Mar 2025 #18

It's absolutely the only option. Tonight a big thanks goes out to Schumer for appearing immediately after the CR vote. ancianita Mar 2025 #20

Do Not Want the Courts to Shut Down Tbear Mar 2025 #19

EXACTLY. They are the bulwark. We are the party of sanity and we ARE winning. ancianita Mar 2025 #21

Yup. That one one point convinced me. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #64

Plus the bill continues Social Security and Medicare spending, critical to about 75 million Americans. BComplex Mar 2025 #82

What a bunch of BS thumper2547 Mar 2025 #27

The Democratic Party operates on different levels. Attack the congressional Dems all you want when they're ancianita Mar 2025 #44

Here you are. Lulu KC Mar 2025 #87

Thank you for this. mzmolly Mar 2025 #29

I cannot disagree more angrychair Mar 2025 #31

they are not voting for the CR. They are voting to allow it to go to vote and be passed by the GOP LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #36

Fine. You're right. Whatever the House sent, the Senate still passed. ancianita Mar 2025 #39

I get that angrychair Mar 2025 #46

BIG mistake!! We need to take the fight to these fascists!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #50

Thank you for that voice of reason. The courts issue is super important. LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #34

buck stops voteragain Mar 2025 #14

Good summation crimycarny Mar 2025 #16

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #40

The party lacks strong leadership today. Sorry to say it Bristlecone Mar 2025 #17

Double bind Nasruddin Mar 2025 #23

Which option causes the least destruction and lasting harm? Martin Eden Mar 2025 #24

K&R Docreed2003 Mar 2025 #26

100% agree with every word of this obamanut2012 Mar 2025 #28

"Heads, they win. Tails, we lose." regnaD kciN Mar 2025 #30

At some point you have to take a principled stand... that time is NOW!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #55

I listened to Schumer explain his reasoning on MSNBC on tunein radio out on a walk CentralMass Mar 2025 #32

All true, but Schumer also knows what kind of mess happens when the government shuts down FakeNoose Mar 2025 #41

Yes, he does. ancianita Mar 2025 #47

" In politics, looking like you're fighting goes a very, very long way." Pinback Mar 2025 #35

I agree EarlG - the outcome is bad either way FakeNoose Mar 2025 #38

I think that's an excellent assessment. hamsterjill Mar 2025 #42

Thank you! You're singing my tune. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author defacto7 Mar 2025 #49

No, our best weapon against Trump, where we are actually winning, is the federal courts. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #69

Change the Storyline Marvin Jones Mar 2025 #51

FIGHT, god damn it! Wild blueberry Mar 2025 #52

DING DING DING... we hava winna!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #54

This is Democracy......... Lovie777 Mar 2025 #53

EarlG, please see this Brian Beutler piece that Greg Sargent just posted about on Bluesky: highplainsdem Mar 2025 #56

Nancy Pelosi would have used this situation iemanja Mar 2025 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Gimpyknee Mar 2025 #59

Seriously? Gimpyknee Mar 2025 #60

HaHaHaHa!!!! You're joking right??? GP6971 Mar 2025 #71

Pretty much how I feel about it. We're finally starting to hear stronger push back. But there's still no spark. marble falls Mar 2025 #61

Rock and a hard place. So, the public needs to Ilsa Mar 2025 #63

SHUT DOWN DOGE crud Mar 2025 #65

Advise I was given... oldsoldierfadingfast Mar 2025 #66

They need their own "drain the swamp" SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #67

My sense remains is that the Democrats thought that there was no way Kamala would not win - NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #68

I'm always thrilled when some else sees multigraincracker Mar 2025 #70

Thank you for your insight. applegrove Mar 2025 #72

I agree with much of what you wrote. BUT... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2025 #75

Maybe the answer is, as Barack Obama put it, that "we are the ones we've been waiting for" EarlG Mar 2025 #77

Bingo. If not us, who? marble falls Mar 2025 #116

As I understand it JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #76

You make a good point EarlG. Hope22 Mar 2025 #78

Well stated EarlG. Do what you believe or do what you believe will cause the least harm. twodogsbarking Mar 2025 #79

analysis mamacita75 Mar 2025 #80

All but one Democrat in the house voted against this bill HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #83

Don't shut down the government. Two bad choices. Jakes Progress Mar 2025 #84

We are not, let me repeat, not, in a time of business as usual. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2025 #86

this is the message: NJCher Mar 2025 #88

If this CR means Musk gets a position, then no, we cannot approve that. Festivito Mar 2025 #89

Whoops! Your 2 cents ae only worth $.0135. mjvpi Mar 2025 #90

You are wrong about... johnnyknj Mar 2025 #92

My Problem Is That I Don't Know What Is In The Bill DallasNE Mar 2025 #93

You've Nailed It! Daleuhlmann Mar 2025 #94

kick question everything Mar 2025 #95

Dems need a message malaise Mar 2025 #96

While I hate the CR, I think that shutting down the government is not a good idea LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #97

I agree senseandsensibility Mar 2025 #98

A Stand Godot51 Mar 2025 #99

Right to the heart of the matter as usual, EarlG LearnedHand Mar 2025 #102

Well said Earl. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #105

Indeed. It's Time For A New Buck. I Say It's Time For Mark Kelly To Be The New Buck In Charge MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #106

the more we keep harping that Dems don't have a message, the more that becomes the cw bigtree Mar 2025 #107

I agree. The buck stops with Schumer. TomSlick Mar 2025 #110

No, would happen anyway. Sparkly Mar 2025 #112

Well stated!! Sparkly Mar 2025 #111

I applaud you for articulating with precision the situation as it actually is, and I must say it gives me hope. msfiddlestix Mar 2025 #113

I think everyone is overlooking something NWArkansasDem Mar 2025 #114

I agree. Not wanting to either look guilty of interfering with granma's SSI check or let the GOP ... marble falls Mar 2025 #115

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #117