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cadoman

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34. or perhaps the party of many small tents who can't come together when it matters?
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:24 AM
Mar 12

There's certainly an abundance of anti-Trump energy out there but it was a struggle to get everyone committed to voting against him.

You'd think being anti-Trump would be enough, as it's obviously the #1 thing on many people's list, but when it came down to it, each of the little tents found some reason to stay home.

The pro-Palestine tent thinks Biden caused them to lose their territory.

The pro-Israel tent didn't think Biden committed enough to protect them from anti-Semitism and Oct 7.

The working class tent is always resistant to immigration (even refugees) because it hits their economic prospects most. Our successes on the border never got through the misinformation.

Even the big-business tent was somewhat available for the taking (due to MAGAT tariff chaos) but may have stayed home due to tax concerns.

The Hispanic/LatinX tent didn't show up because frankly it turned out to be a lot more racist and misogynistic than I ever would have guessed.

The long COVID and COVID cautious communities felt let down when things went back to "normal".

The Black and LGBTQ2SIA+ tents generally showed up--kudos to them.

The health care tent is definitely available for the taking. I think what we offered to folks with healthcare concerns wasn't specific enough.

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All those tents could have been reached to some degree with surgical strike policy pivots. Each tent needed to be given one damn good "centrist" reason to show up. That's how you get the fence-sitters out to vote.

But instead we ran to the center by running to...Liz Cheney? Democrats aren't excited about her, but even worse: neither are independents or conservatives. I can guarantee Liz Cheney won us zero votes. What is the point in parading her around, making everyone uncomfortable?? The neocon journalists (Kristol, Frum, etc.) were more effective by appealing to the reason of their followers in a low-key manner.

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because the last election showed us how the country stopdiggin Feb 2025 #1
That's what Robert Reich saw and he's been following elections a lot longer than I have Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #2
There's no such thing as a political expert Polybius Mar 9 #25
As the old saying goes, opinions are the assholes, everybody has one, and Reich is entitled to his. elocs Apr 22 #42
No the last election showed us that chasing the illusive Republican who will vote Democratic Nanjeanne Feb 2025 #19
ah, yes. "what the Ds lack is solid 'messaging' " stopdiggin Feb 2025 #21
It was a "disjointed" message. My heart sank when I saw what happened to Biden during the debate. That long pause, Biden CTyankee Feb 2025 #23
see I bought a huge bottle of whiskey election night Skittles Apr 29 #45
You were so right. I was so wrong, just carried away by the moment. Now I know... CTyankee Apr 30 #46
I was hopeful...foolishly so Bettie May 6 #48
You argue as passionately against a left shift as questionseverything Mar 9 #28
Darn straight. Unapologetically. And with some conviction. stopdiggin Mar 9 #29
If we really want to win elections, we should be able to verify the count questionseverything Mar 9 #30
My objection to 'hand counting' lies in that it is a bogus nostrum stopdiggin Mar 9 #31
It's transparent which should beat everything in a democracy questionseverything Mar 9 #32
have to be joking stopdiggin Mar 9 #33
Overton window Be Leave On Feb 2025 #3
Thanks so much! And I tend to believe Robert Reich Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #4
A blunt opinion Nulock Feb 2025 #5
Thanks for your thoughtful response Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #6
Thank you. Nulock Feb 2025 #7
I agree with you and what's happening now absolutely baffles me Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #9
Although I detest Reagan, markodochartaigh Feb 2025 #12
I was certainly no fan of Reagan, either, though his "beliefs" were the complete opposite of TFG's Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #14
Trump's essentially a crime boss and the Republican Party has become his crime family. Nulock Feb 2025 #13
Wow! I completely take your point and certainly agree Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #15
He has the entire political apparatus of the state at his disposal and command. Nulock Feb 2025 #16
And the fact that he has these ardent "loyalists" makes no sense to me Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #17
I'll buy in to that - in general terms, if not every specific ... stopdiggin Feb 2025 #11
Completely agree DeepWinter Feb 2025 #22
Pretty good article from a DU member posted here. Nulock Mar 1 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 16 #37
I think Gaza became a single issue for many Democrats that drove them to not vote or vote third party ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 30 #47
That was cosmic, I just made a post on another thread that aligned with Robert's message before I saw this video Uncle Joe Feb 2025 #8
Awww, thanks, Uncle Joe! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #10
We didn't lose from running to the center somsai Feb 2025 #18
Well said. Think. Again. Mar 9 #26
or perhaps the party of many small tents who can't come together when it matters? cadoman Mar 12 #34
immigration is more a racist issue than an economic one Skittles May 7 #49
Stop compromising. We need to get Enthusiastic & get our own movement going! Maga gives us lots of ammunition. NowsTheTime Feb 2025 #20
I can't rec this post enough. Think. Again. Mar 9 #27
K & R. We have a centrist problem. Emile Mar 15 #35
We've been moving right ever since Reagan. Trump is the logical outcome of our strategy. jalan48 Mar 15 #36
This is what centrism sounds like ... Intractable Mar 16 #38
Chuck Schumer needs to take notes and learn. Emile Mar 17 #39
Since Carter, and then Clinton, Obama. Passages Mar 18 #40
There are voter who normally vote more Democratic than Republican, but who simply not vote for a woman. elocs Apr 22 #41
I voted early for the first time in the last election, I needed to get it done Rhiannon12866 Apr 22 #43
The center-left divide is no longer relevant iemanja Apr 29 #44
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