The Way Forward

Rhiannon12866

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17. And the fact that he has these ardent "loyalists" makes no sense to me

Thu Feb 27, 2025, 02:49 AM

Feb 2025

He'll jettison anyone in a minute if they dare to disagree or just can't take it anymore - look at Michael Cohen! He actually broke the law for him, only to be thrown under the bus and intentionally sent back to prison! And yet TFG has yet to pay for much more serious crimes...

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Democrats: Stop Running to the Center - Robert Reich [View all] Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 OP

because the last election showed us how the country stopdiggin Feb 2025 #1

That's what Robert Reich saw and he's been following elections a lot longer than I have Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #2

There's no such thing as a political expert Polybius Mar 9 #25

As the old saying goes, opinions are the assholes, everybody has one, and Reich is entitled to his. elocs Apr 22 #42

No the last election showed us that chasing the illusive Republican who will vote Democratic Nanjeanne Feb 2025 #19

ah, yes. "what the Ds lack is solid 'messaging' " stopdiggin Feb 2025 #21

It was a "disjointed" message. My heart sank when I saw what happened to Biden during the debate. That long pause, Biden CTyankee Feb 2025 #23

see I bought a huge bottle of whiskey election night Skittles Apr 29 #45

You were so right. I was so wrong, just carried away by the moment. Now I know... CTyankee Apr 30 #46

I was hopeful...foolishly so Bettie May 6 #48

You argue as passionately against a left shift as questionseverything Mar 9 #28

Darn straight. Unapologetically. And with some conviction. stopdiggin Mar 9 #29

If we really want to win elections, we should be able to verify the count questionseverything Mar 9 #30

My objection to 'hand counting' lies in that it is a bogus nostrum stopdiggin Mar 9 #31

It's transparent which should beat everything in a democracy questionseverything Mar 9 #32

have to be joking stopdiggin Mar 9 #33

Overton window Be Leave On Feb 2025 #3

Thanks so much! And I tend to believe Robert Reich Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #4

A blunt opinion Nulock Feb 2025 #5

Thanks for your thoughtful response Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #6

Thank you. Nulock Feb 2025 #7

I agree with you and what's happening now absolutely baffles me Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #9

Although I detest Reagan, markodochartaigh Feb 2025 #12

I was certainly no fan of Reagan, either, though his "beliefs" were the complete opposite of TFG's Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #14

Trump's essentially a crime boss and the Republican Party has become his crime family. Nulock Feb 2025 #13

Wow! I completely take your point and certainly agree Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #15

He has the entire political apparatus of the state at his disposal and command. Nulock Feb 2025 #16

And the fact that he has these ardent "loyalists" makes no sense to me Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #17

I'll buy in to that - in general terms, if not every specific ... stopdiggin Feb 2025 #11

Completely agree DeepWinter Feb 2025 #22

Pretty good article from a DU member posted here. Nulock Mar 1 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 16 #37

I think Gaza became a single issue for many Democrats that drove them to not vote or vote third party ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 30 #47

That was cosmic, I just made a post on another thread that aligned with Robert's message before I saw this video Uncle Joe Feb 2025 #8

Awww, thanks, Uncle Joe! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2025 #10

We didn't lose from running to the center somsai Feb 2025 #18

Well said. Think. Again. Mar 9 #26

or perhaps the party of many small tents who can't come together when it matters? cadoman Mar 12 #34

immigration is more a racist issue than an economic one Skittles May 7 #49

Stop compromising. We need to get Enthusiastic & get our own movement going! Maga gives us lots of ammunition. NowsTheTime Feb 2025 #20

I can't rec this post enough. Think. Again. Mar 9 #27

K & R. We have a centrist problem. Emile Mar 15 #35

We've been moving right ever since Reagan. Trump is the logical outcome of our strategy. jalan48 Mar 15 #36

This is what centrism sounds like ... Intractable Mar 16 #38

Chuck Schumer needs to take notes and learn. Emile Mar 17 #39

Since Carter, and then Clinton, Obama. Passages Mar 18 #40

There are voter who normally vote more Democratic than Republican, but who simply not vote for a woman. elocs Apr 22 #41

I voted early for the first time in the last election, I needed to get it done Rhiannon12866 Apr 22 #43

The center-left divide is no longer relevant iemanja Apr 29 #44