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In reply to the discussion: Breaking: Man Admits That Men Simply Don't Trust Women [View all]ismnotwasm
(42,652 posts)2. This is not about relationship 'issues' exactly
For instance, I have a very good marriage. We trust one another.
This is about a generalized mistrust about the word of women compared to generalized trust of the word of men. In other words, men are considered more trustworthy, or more 'stable' if you will, while women are considered emotional and reactive. No generalization is 100%, of course.
No article on the inherent distrust of women by men could be complete with a mention of Yashar Ali's 2011 essay for HuffPo about gaslighting, which explained the commonly used manipulation tactic toward women, drawn from a 1944 film of the same name, that undercuts a woman's every assertion that her feelings and experiences are valid and true. It can be very subtle a "you're so sensitive" here, a "Calm down, you're overreacting," there to more serious emotional abuse, such as, as Ali notes, "No one will ever want you."
What woman alive has not experienced this in some form or another, is not intimately aware of having her authority questioned, her opinions ignored, doubted, or silenced, her feelings mocked, belittled, or dismissed? Young notes, that, when it comes to interpersonal conflict with his wife, "if she's on eight, I assume the situation is really a six."
At its essence, this is a form of emotional policing that tells us how we should or shouldn't feel, and reminds us that we are not to be taken as seriously as men, who have the final say in all matters.
Hell, I am grateful at this point when I remark on something I've researched and reported extensively and know to be correct and a man in my presence concedes, "Yeah, that could be true." In my real every day life, men take other men's opinions as facts, and seem more likely to regard women's opinions as suggestions
What woman alive has not experienced this in some form or another, is not intimately aware of having her authority questioned, her opinions ignored, doubted, or silenced, her feelings mocked, belittled, or dismissed? Young notes, that, when it comes to interpersonal conflict with his wife, "if she's on eight, I assume the situation is really a six."
At its essence, this is a form of emotional policing that tells us how we should or shouldn't feel, and reminds us that we are not to be taken as seriously as men, who have the final say in all matters.
Hell, I am grateful at this point when I remark on something I've researched and reported extensively and know to be correct and a man in my presence concedes, "Yeah, that could be true." In my real every day life, men take other men's opinions as facts, and seem more likely to regard women's opinions as suggestions
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it is a thing that men do. (that is general, not ALL). it is a thing women allow. (that is general,
seabeyond
Mar 2015
#20
You mean that based on what someone else says, you might doubt what you see and you conclusions?
salib
Mar 2015
#7
nobody gives a shit about your "all" argument. what part of that are YOU not getting
seabeyond
Mar 2015
#18
i swear to god, the best of men have such a challenge seeing the wrongs. a challenge
seabeyond
Mar 2015
#32
"how do I distinguish between what I think I see" maybe LISTEN to women tell you our
seabeyond
Mar 2015
#12
There are still men who think that the *dozens* of women who have accused Cosby are lying
YoungDemCA
Mar 2015
#35