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Showing Original Post only (View all)How So-Called “Men’s Rights Activists” Make Actual Work On Behalf Of Men Harder [View all]
(In solidarity with Boston Beans thread)
20/20″ keeps delaying the episode of their show dealing with the extensive, grassroots campaign to harass women, particularly feminists, online until they quit in terror and frustration. (Well, I assume thats the imagined goal, though most anti-feminist harassers are men who get a lot of pleasure out of the direct act of berating and scaring women, so their campaign is really self-rewarding.) Luckily for us, Jaclyn Friedman decided to go ahead and publish a piece on so-called mens rights activistswe really need to come up with a more accurate name, as they are neither concerned with mens rights* nor with activismat the American Prospect anyway. Read the whole thing. It kicks ass.
She made me consider a point in this that I had never really thought much about before. As anyone who has dealt with MRAs knows, the short list of mens issues they have cobbled together to justify their existence is mostly shit they dont give two fucks about. Mens higher death rate in wars and from crime, mens higher death rate on the job, sexual violence against men, and mens higher suicide rate are all issues that are important, but represent to MRAs one thing and one thing only: A chance to deflect and derail discussions about feminist issues. They dont do shit to actually address these issues. They often distort them deliberately, hiding some of the relevant contextual factors that would make it clear that what they call mens issues are often labor issues, results of racial discrimination, and yes, feminist issuesparticularly sexual violence, which affects both men and women but is nonetheless enacted primarily by men as an expression of masculine power.
Anyway, Jaclyn makes the point that because MRAs co-opt these very real issues but dont actually care very much about them, they are happy to abandon men and boys to real danger when it suits their hate campaign against women. Because of this, the noise they make blaming all these issues on women means that it is now harder for people who actually give a fuck to find resources.
Every man who visits a mens rights site concerned about male victims of rape is a man wholl be told that women are the problem and will be offered no practical solutions, a man who wont be connected with direct services for survivors if he needs them, a man who still doesnt know about Just Detention International, which works to end prison rape, or Service Womens Action Network, which is taking the lead to end sexual violence in the U.S. military for both men and women. Every man who comes to them concerned about the high rates of on-the-job fatalities for men is a man taught to blame women but who is never encouraged to support or join unions. Every man who comes to them concerned about the male suicide rate is a man who wont be encouraged to help out with the life-saving work The Samaritans do every day.
She made me consider a point in this that I had never really thought much about before. As anyone who has dealt with MRAs knows, the short list of mens issues they have cobbled together to justify their existence is mostly shit they dont give two fucks about. Mens higher death rate in wars and from crime, mens higher death rate on the job, sexual violence against men, and mens higher suicide rate are all issues that are important, but represent to MRAs one thing and one thing only: A chance to deflect and derail discussions about feminist issues. They dont do shit to actually address these issues. They often distort them deliberately, hiding some of the relevant contextual factors that would make it clear that what they call mens issues are often labor issues, results of racial discrimination, and yes, feminist issuesparticularly sexual violence, which affects both men and women but is nonetheless enacted primarily by men as an expression of masculine power.
Anyway, Jaclyn makes the point that because MRAs co-opt these very real issues but dont actually care very much about them, they are happy to abandon men and boys to real danger when it suits their hate campaign against women. Because of this, the noise they make blaming all these issues on women means that it is now harder for people who actually give a fuck to find resources.
Every man who visits a mens rights site concerned about male victims of rape is a man wholl be told that women are the problem and will be offered no practical solutions, a man who wont be connected with direct services for survivors if he needs them, a man who still doesnt know about Just Detention International, which works to end prison rape, or Service Womens Action Network, which is taking the lead to end sexual violence in the U.S. military for both men and women. Every man who comes to them concerned about the high rates of on-the-job fatalities for men is a man taught to blame women but who is never encouraged to support or join unions. Every man who comes to them concerned about the male suicide rate is a man who wont be encouraged to help out with the life-saving work The Samaritans do every day.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/24/how-so-called-mens-rights-activists-make-actual-work-on-behalf-of-men-harder/
So while I have a real issue with MRA's-- I have absolutely none with men's activism that reaching across gender and actually addresses men's issues. Just don't blame it on feminists. Truth to tell, If it wasn't for feminists, there would be less of a platform to discuss gendered problems and to start actual work on real solutions.
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How So-Called “Men’s Rights Activists” Make Actual Work On Behalf Of Men Harder [View all]
ismnotwasm
Dec 2013
OP
"... issues that are important, but represent to MRAs one thing and one thing only:
redqueen
Dec 2013
#5
They care far more about "getting back at" women than helping men. That's it right there.
nomorenomore08
Dec 2013
#9