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delisen

(7,109 posts)
46. Dems went all out for ACA and then lost the 1000 Dem seats across country
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 10:51 AM
Mar 2017

That first election after the ACA was critical because it in many states it gave the power of reapportionment to Republicans.That local strength does indirectly influence who wins the statewide and national elections. An almost decade long loss of seats not being addressed or addressed ineffectively has taken a toll. The strength of the party in 2008 was quite different from 2016-

There is no barrier to people who want to staff the Democratic Party. There is no barrier to telling people who attend rallies to bring their energy to the Democratic Party and to lead the way oneself.

In the old days the nuts and bolts work of the party was done by women-you know all the societal reasons that is no longer happening and is not going to happen.

I keep hearing reformers give analyses of what is wrong with the Democratic party. What I am seeing however is the unwillingness to build the party-nuts and bolts-and an unwillingness to focus opposition on the nationalistic white supremacist and anti-worker Republican Party.

White supremacism is a powerful movement and it is international , a good % of voters aligning themselves with it are authoritarians. If we waver on human rights we will only earn their contempt, not their votes. I don't see the point in fishing for their votes. They don't even want more equality of income. They approve of the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few.

We can get the non-authoritarian votes-but we won't get them by being Trump-lite. We still have to stand on principles of human rights-unapologetically.

Union strength was in steady decline way before the 1990s. Many union members seemed to vote "against their own economic interests" in the 1980s.

Maybe more unions needed to follow the runaway shops south in the sixties and confront the anti-union forces then-but they didn't and mainly kept fishing in the same pond, catering to the same voters who eventually decided that their interests were with corporate America and not with other workers.

The Democratic Party of the nineties was just reactive to the events of the 80s.
























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More purity test bullshit Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #1
Yes, democracy is hanging by a thread. appal_jack Mar 2017 #20
Aren't the numbers supposed to add up to 1000? Maraya1969 Mar 2017 #70
Go. Away. we can do it Mar 2017 #2
Yes, that is what voters are, in fact, doing. appal_jack Mar 2017 #21
Not a thing leftofcool Mar 2017 #30
Try to tell any of the party conservatives and they flip out completely Warpy Mar 2017 #3
+1000 nt bananas Mar 2017 #5
Thanks for trying to be part of positive change, Warpy! nt appal_jack Mar 2017 #24
Yes! Thirties Child Mar 2017 #53
A shift to the right but Nixon was still elected in a huge victory. eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #57
The shift didn't happen until after the 1968 Nixon victory Warpy Mar 2017 #63
Dems Snackshack Mar 2017 #4
Did you forget Clinton's campaign? Her only fault is that she didn't engage a foreign enemy to help. George II Mar 2017 #12
She asked the relevant question herself. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #14
Shaun King... LovingA2andMI Mar 2017 #6
You got that right. ciaobaby Mar 2017 #18
Republicans promise to make you rich like them C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #7
I hope we articulate something both better and more genuine. nt appal_jack Mar 2017 #25
Nothing better to offer loyalsister Nov 2018 #73
Uh, yeah............................ alittlelark Mar 2017 #8
It's not unpopular Applan Mar 2017 #9
Hillary's wasn't the only candidate who lost an election since 2008. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #15
G E R R Y M A N D E R I N G. VOTER PURGE we can do it Mar 2017 #48
BULLSHIT. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #49
hillary won by 2.9mil votes, repubs have gerrymandered states to death. dems got millions more msongs Mar 2017 #10
How do you gerrymander the Senate BlueWI Mar 2017 #11
Amen. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #16
...... LovingA2andMI Mar 2017 #17
Excellent points. Thanks. appal_jack Mar 2017 #26
Agree. nt zentrum Mar 2017 #32
this. Nay Mar 2017 #47
Being wishy washy middle of the road corporatist Democrats- not inspiring Valhallakey Mar 2017 #13
Who do you think the base is? Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #19
The far left is commies. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #42
I've been around a long time, voted for the first time in 1956. I remember how it once was. Thirties Child Mar 2017 #55
Yes. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #61
I will say this Mountain Mule Mar 2017 #36
Thank you for these first-hand observations Mountain Mule! appal_jack Mar 2017 #38
Thanks for putting in the work. BlueWI Mar 2017 #45
Welcome BlueWI! Mountain Mule Mar 2017 #50
My experience was somewhat the same Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #58
It's the same here Mountain Mule Mar 2017 #59
Doubt this thread will last very long zentrum Mar 2017 #22
Yes on all points! nt appal_jack Mar 2017 #27
I think you're ignoring the phony scandals the RW media pelted is with - and this year they did it bettyellen Mar 2017 #51
Consider the source. And get a grip. TygrBright Mar 2017 #23
My grip is fine, thanks. appal_jack Mar 2017 #28
Get Wild! Get Angry! Go for Republican throats... maddiemom Mar 2017 #29
I wonder if that's why Obama dropped the "Public Option" from the ACA appal_jack Mar 2017 #31
Obama never dropped it. It was Max Baucus and the lack of 60 Dem votes in the Senate. LonePirate Mar 2017 #34
He certainly did not go to bat for it via the bully pulpit. appal_jack Mar 2017 #35
It wasn't just the bipartisinship zentrum Mar 2017 #39
Dems went all out for ACA and then lost the 1000 Dem seats across country delisen Mar 2017 #46
That's it zentrum Mar 2017 #33
Yes, the Democratic Party is so unpopular its presidential nominee lost the popular vote... Rollo Mar 2017 #37
The popular vote meme is a comforting thought truebluegreen Mar 2017 #43
The false equivalency is nonesense. Our candate lost because 11 days still_one Mar 2017 #54
Nonsense indeed. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #60
Nobody is going to be leading by 50 points in today's hyper-partisan Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #62
It was a rhetorical question. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #66
Your third question is a straw man. Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #67
Take personal responsibility Rollo Mar 2017 #68
You seem to have missed my point... Rollo Mar 2017 #64
I remember when Obama was running for President in 2008... Rollo Mar 2017 #65
Ronan interview bbgrunt Mar 2017 #40
Eloquent? Lolz JNelson6563 Mar 2017 #41
Trump is wildly unpopular. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #44
BULLSHIT!! We know why we are unpopular njhoneybadger Mar 2017 #52
That campaign slogan should work just great... appal_jack Mar 2017 #69
Every Democrat running for Senate in the swing states lost to the ESTABLISHMENT still_one Mar 2017 #56
Democrats should emulate Bernie Sanders benpollard May 2017 #71
What needs to be done. Maximus Decimus Meri Jun 2017 #72
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