2016 Postmortem

Buckeye_Democrat

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11. Yes, that would help.

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:37 PM

Dec 2016

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On the other hand, I suspect that many Democratic primary voters assume the worst on social issues if the candidate speaks more about class issues. Opposing candidates who speak more about social concerns often have a better chance in primaries.

If I was a Republican mostly concerned about taxes and redistribution of wealth, I'd try to ensure that Democrats always had a candidate that was very vocal about social issues.

EDIT: Does anyone really think candidates like Jerry Brown, Howard Dean or Bernie Sanders want a return to the social conditions of the 50's? Apparently yes! See reply #14 for what I'm talking about.

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If I have a choice between a progressive and a centrist, I'll never vote centrist again [View all] realmirage Dec 2016 OP

It is the only choice. HassleCat Dec 2016 #1

Ok, now that was really funny! Yurovsky Dec 2016 #7

Worked out well last time around. Vinca Dec 2016 #38

I prefer center left candidates for president. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #2

I think Trump just proved that populist realmirage Dec 2016 #3

A progressive can win but it is not easy. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #4

One small matter: Are you forgetting he didn't win the primary? brush Dec 2016 #5

Of course he didn't. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #6

So it would behoove a progressive candidate to campaign equaly on social as well . . . brush Dec 2016 #8

Yes, that would help. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #11

Bernie did campaign on social issues as well. Maybe MSM didn't give that the coverage, but in his JudyM Dec 2016 #15

It won't help in primaries if... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #16

I get what you mean, but it's more about coverage, which has been reduced to drama and sound bytes. JudyM Dec 2016 #17

True, but candidates have time constraints on their messages too. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #20

Interesting thought. JudyM Dec 2016 #22

I'm one of the "social concerns are a given" Democrats. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #23

They win with the help of FBI, Russia WhiteTara Dec 2016 #12

So, Working Class Wants Tax Breaks for Rich... TomCADem Dec 2016 #13

Trump proved liars can win emulatorloo Dec 2016 #29

And all this squabbling MFM008 Dec 2016 #9

Have there been any studies that prove/count the jobs lost/gained from trade deals? LonePirate Dec 2016 #10

I give up myself.. JHan Dec 2016 #26

This is exactly why we lost the rust belt. I fear realmirage Dec 2016 #35

No, my singular opinion is not the reason we lost the rust belt.. JHan Dec 2016 #36

I voted for a Progressive Democrat bravenak Dec 2016 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Dec 2016 #18

I voted for Bernie and lost. I voted for Clinton and lost again. Joe941 Dec 2016 #19

This is a limited and not very mature way to see politics Dem2 Dec 2016 #21

I'll let you stick with strategies that lose. I'm going to learn and grow from this loss realmirage Dec 2016 #24

Lol Dem2 Dec 2016 #25

You must think losing is funny. Losing is for losers realmirage Dec 2016 #32

You're gonna stick with binary thinking, false narratives emulatorloo Dec 2016 #30

No, I'm going to vote for candidates that fight for the middle class realmirage Dec 2016 #31

Uh-huh emulatorloo Dec 2016 #34

It is important not to boxed in by labels. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #27

A candidate who speaks in a passionate way realmirage Dec 2016 #33

Well, that's dumb. Squinch Dec 2016 #28

Like the only people who "suffer" are these people from the rust belt. TrekLuver Dec 2016 #37

That attitude is a perfect recipe for another loss in 2020 realmirage Dec 2016 #39

Rust belt votes had the choice between a progressive and a racist... SidDithers Dec 2016 #40

they had a choice in senate candidates also JI7 Dec 2016 #43

I don;t dismiss the suffering of working people... Adrahil Dec 2016 #41

Why didn't they vote for feingold and strickland if it's about trade ? JI7 Dec 2016 #42

Lables are so confusing Go Vols Dec 2016 #44

We are running out of time for caretaker presidents. Orsino Dec 2016 #45

What if the "centrist" is an old-school moderate? meow2u3 Dec 2016 #46

If I have a choice I'll pick the candidate with balls to stand up for both realmirage Dec 2016 #47