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qazplm135

(7,647 posts)
26. Lol
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 04:20 PM
Nov 2022

You gave evidence that some people who happen to be religious are idiots or easily given to conspiracy theories about vaccines.

Not really earth shattering.

You've then advanced an opinion that this is really all due to religion seeking death. No evidence for that opinion.

I didn't say anything about chasing death. I said fear of death generates a need to avoid it by negating it as a finality. This isn't something I just came up with, it's a pretty long-standing psychological theory that predate you, me and our grandparents.

We created an afterlife almost as soon as we developed an understanding of the finality of death. We built up religions to help form and give logic and reason to an afterlife.

Obviously, those beliefs are used by others to do all sorts of things, control being primary. And certainly SOME people can use religion to justify anything from the heroic to the selfless to the massively stupid.

So because you think a handful of people express an opinion on death that somehow extends to all religious people or is the basis of all religious belief is a narrow and self serving opinion.

Religion does spring from a fundamental unanswerable question, what happens after we die. Fear of nonexistence. Even if I bought your opinion that religious people race to death, which obviously I don't, but even if I did, WHY would they be racing towards death UNLESS they believed that death wasn't the end?

There are precious few religions that don't have an afterlife, why is that?

You clearly don't think much about religion and thus you have created an opinion that allows you to handwave away all religious people as death seekers.

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This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Nov 2022 #1
Far longer than we will be alive. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2022 #2
not til after the rapture unfortunately msongs Nov 2022 #3
It never will. It comes with being human. PSPS Nov 2022 #4
nope Skittles Nov 2022 #9
My existence stops at the end of my fingers Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #18
When we find a way to become immortal? qazplm135 Nov 2022 #5
I don't see that Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #19
Pretty narrow frame qazplm135 Nov 2022 #21
You framed it I did not Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #22
You didn't give evidence you gave qazplm135 Nov 2022 #24
I disagree Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #25
Lol qazplm135 Nov 2022 #26
Religions have a million and one ways of conning people Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #28
I'm agnostic lol qazplm135 Nov 2022 #29
Agnostic isn't a belief position Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #32
In spite of your qazplm135 Dec 2022 #34
We are NOT born with an idea of an afterlife Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #33
So when you think about qazplm135 Dec 2022 #36
Seriously? Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #31
Lol qazplm135 Dec 2022 #35
It's not going away. RockRaven Nov 2022 #6
+1 Auggie Nov 2022 #12
I don't see it coming back if we could stamp it all out Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #23
Not soon enough! PortTack Nov 2022 #7
not soon enough Skittles Nov 2022 #8
Like a bad penny, it always seems to come back Warpy Nov 2022 #10
One can only hope, SOON! joshdawg Nov 2022 #11
Christmas has become a secular holiday Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #20
The twelfth of never Walleye Nov 2022 #13
I don't know, but we need to TAX churches NOW. vanlassie Nov 2022 #14
9 grandkids.... 3 are adults. None of them go to church or even talk about religion. 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #15
Since Trump is considered a god by some Cartoonist Nov 2022 #16
there always seems to be a 35% that hang on to the old ways. rurallib Nov 2022 #17
When the religious nuts finally blow everything up and no one is left. BluesRunTheGame Nov 2022 #27
Too long Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #30
within 10-20 years RussBLib Jan 2023 #37
Stop sending money to televangelists and mega church "Pastors" Sessuch Feb 2023 #38
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