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Gun Control & RKBA

no_hypocrisy

(53,601 posts) Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:55 PM Mar 2018

Don't gun shows circumvent having to use a straw purchase if you're not [View all]

supposed to have a firearm?

In other words, let's say you have a criminal record and can't/shouldn't possess a weapon.

If you go to a gun show, nobody knows you have purchased a weapon because there isn't any registration or identification check.

But if you have a friend with a yellow card who can legally purchase a firearm and then sell it to you (private sale), it's a straw purchase and both of you can be indicted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_purchase

Does this make sense? If it doesn't what am I missing in my analysis?

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Don't gun shows circumvent having to use a straw purchase if you're not [View all] no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 OP

not really, gejohnston Mar 2018 #1

Someone who has an FFL (Federal Firearms License) AzureCrest Mar 2018 #2

Well then get them access to the system. Private sales were like 30% of gun show purchases and its bettyellen Mar 2018 #3

States that dont regulate who are responsible for the flow of guns into states that do regulate. gejohnston Mar 2018 #4

The NRA has lobbied to block research- and block regulations. Do the math. bettyellen Mar 2018 #6

no they didn't gejohnston Mar 2018 #7

They only support backround checks with the loophole. And research is not advocacy for fucks sake bettyellen Mar 2018 #12

The "loophole" gejohnston Mar 2018 #15

I dont give a shit about excuses for allowing the loophole- well regulated does not mean bettyellen Mar 2018 #16

IOW, gejohnston Mar 2018 #17

You think loopholes are well functioning? Bullshit. bettyellen Mar 2018 #18

And yet again, the default intellectual level of gun control advocacy is confirmed... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #19

He argued that the loopholes existing are equivelent to well functioning or well regulated ... bettyellen Mar 2018 #20

re: loopholes discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #21

youre actually arguing everyone deserves to have a weapon. Violent abusive people. Nope. bettyellen Mar 2018 #22

It would be polite to take *your* straw argument out of *his* mouth friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #23

The people are in favor of sensible gun regulation- the loopholes prevent it from functioning. bettyellen Mar 2018 #24

Putting your straw into *my* mouth is also impolite. I'll thank you to remove it friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #25

I was replying to the claim that laws full of loopholes are functioning. By definition they do not. bettyellen Mar 2018 #26

"But you knew that." I 'knew' nothing of the sort, and you've proposed no clear means... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #27

Close the loopholes, all transfers require a check. Period. Thats regulation. bettyellen Mar 2018 #28

I will do my best to explain what I understand as the truth discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #29

Gets even worse. Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #5

I call that the Brussels Train Station Loophole gejohnston Mar 2018 #8

Yes. Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #9

"Private sales were like 30% of gun show purchases" link? I doubt that.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #11

It is still against the law. Nitram Mar 2018 #10

It's not until we stop expecting laws to control people that we will make progress discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #30

I'm not defending this law as a fool-proof deterrent to gun violence. I'm just pointing out Nitram Mar 2018 #31

The location of the sale does not change the rules of the sale. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #13

A gun show is basically a temporary mall. krispos42 Mar 2018 #14