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In reply to the discussion: These numbers are too real. We. Need. Change. [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)32. What you are really saying is
"I don't like democracy when it doesn't go my way, and the first amendment shouldn't apply to people who disagree with me". It is the same nonsense right wingers spewed when Obama wanted to appoint some lawyer who represented Westly Cook in an appeal.
or as lawyer/ethics blogger Josh Marshall points out:
Condemning and demonizing an advocacy organization because one does not agree with or dislikes the position it advocates is, in my view, exactly like condemning a lawyer for effectively representing an unpopular clientand a lot of ignorant Americans do that, too. Citizens have a right to have an effective organization promote their views and opinions in the court of public opinion, just as citizens have a right to have a competent attorney to represent their interests in a court of law. Attacks on this principle are unsustainable, unethical, and undermine democracy.
https://ethicsalarms.com/2018/02/26/cnn-vs-the-nra-ethically-its-no-contest/
Also, groups like ISIS and Al Qaida, the Irish Republican Army, Red Army Faction, KKK, has killed (and some continue to) kill children. That is why teachers are armed in some countries (especially girls schools in places like Pakistan). Just because the children are not American, does not mean they don't exist.
You are advocating for attacking the first and second amendments.
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No, the person made an assertion about 7,182 students killed in schools over 2,280 days
krispos42
Mar 2018
#11
That's a straw man fallacy. I have made no such proposition as you are claiming I have.
ffr
Mar 2018
#12
Again, another straw man. No I didn't. Did you click the tweet? That's what the tweet said.
ffr
Mar 2018
#18
You're are doubling down on your straw man? Citing what someone else claimed as the source
ffr
Mar 2018
#23