Gun Control & RKBA

sharedvalues

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44. Reality: Australia, Canada: strict gun laws. Few DEATHS.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #43)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 01:50 AM

Feb 2018

Australia, Canada: strict gun laws.
Few gun deaths.

America: lots of gun deaths. Kids getting killed regularly.

The bottom line is:

- Gun manufacturers and CEOs want more guns to make money.
- The GOP wants guns to serve as a wedge issue to get votes for their billionaire donors.
- Most Americans have sane gun views. A few Americans want the country to be flooded in guns.

We have a screwed up society where our kids get killed by guns. The answer is simple: reduce guns. The NRA wants to sow doubt. Let's be clear: if you support more guns in the US, you're complicit in American kids' deaths. I refuse to be part of that and you should too.

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Children Are Dying Because Of Americans' Denial About Guns [View all] sharedvalues Feb 2018 OP

Not all, but many, shootings had simple solutions. ManiacJoe Feb 2018 #1

No. Banning semi autos would have stopped Sandy Hook sharedvalues Feb 2018 #2

My M71/84 Mauser rifle was designed to kill humans, should that be banned also? Marengo Feb 2018 #3

Is it a single-shot rifle? If not, ban it. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #7

The Mauser would be legal sarisataka Feb 2018 #12

Lobbying for fewer dead Americans- killed with guns sharedvalues Feb 2018 #18

A very Noble goal sarisataka Feb 2018 #19

Interesting to think of this as a game. Permanut Feb 2018 #28

Game in the sense of sarisataka Feb 2018 #33

Well...I have my thoughts. Puha Ekapi_2 Feb 2018 #37

What about my M1884 rifle? That is a single shot military long arm designed to kill humans as well. Marengo Feb 2018 #29

Would you be so kind as to answer my questions in post #29? Marengo Feb 2018 #34

Do not expect an answer. The have only generalities and insults. n/t oneshooter Feb 2018 #35

"large numbers of unregulated guns" AzureCrest Feb 2018 #4

Regulate like Canada. Where there are fewer gun deaths. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #8

Still not "unregulated ". AzureCrest Feb 2018 #11

Children are killed because of weakly regulated guns sharedvalues Feb 2018 #16

"Thin-slicing language" AzureCrest Feb 2018 #24

To follow the logic of this argument, we would ban sober drivers. Hangingon Feb 2018 #39

Exactly. AzureCrest Feb 2018 #40

Poor timing with your pro-gun comments, sir. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #41

Suggesting that guns are the sole problem... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #26

Australia and Canada put the lie to NRA stats. Fewer guns, fewer deaths. See the chart. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #42

What NRA stats? I see no NRA stats in your pic. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #43

Reality: Australia, Canada: strict gun laws. Few DEATHS. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #44

re:"Let's be clear: if you support more guns in the US, you're complicit in American kids' deaths." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #45

If you are anti-gun control, you are complicit sharedvalues Feb 2018 #46

Canada bans sarisataka Feb 2018 #13

Canada: hard to carry. Strictly regulated sharedvalues Feb 2018 #15

There is no doubt that gun sales have skyrocketed in recent decades. spin Feb 2018 #21

Those stats are flawed. You expect linear correlation? sharedvalues Feb 2018 #47

If more firearms equals more crime than why has the crime rate decreased? spin Feb 2018 #61

Before you use stats, go take a stats class sharedvalues Feb 2018 #62

Ill just stick with FBI and Bureau of Justice Statistics. ... spin Feb 2018 #63

Sorry: NRA banned gov't stats. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #66

Bullshit: The FBI's crime statistics are available online to all: https://ucr.fbi.gov/ friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #67

In the UK's case, gejohnston Feb 2018 #68

As friendly_iconoclast has pointed out the data is readily available on the internet... spin Feb 2018 #69

Google is your friend discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #70

Please read. How many times do I have to show you all the quote? Please read. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #71

Prevented from collecting stats yagotme Feb 2018 #72

You're backpedaling-your claim changed when the FBI's freely available stats were pointed out. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #73

like Canada........ gejohnston Feb 2018 #25

Handguns are basically banned in Canada sharedvalues Feb 2018 #48

IOW, guns embolden deaths. Thank you for Loudly giving your opinion friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #49

not sure sharedvalues Feb 2018 #50

De nada. As an aside, I've always had a fondness for zombies... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #54

no they are not, gejohnston Feb 2018 #58

+1 discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #59

Read above: Handguns effectively banned in Canada. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #78

Pol Pot? gejohnston Feb 2018 #83

"...equating Pol Pot with the kids that died at Sandy Hook?" No, pointing out blatant demagoguery friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #84

Doubling down on wrong. Straw Man Feb 2018 #74

This has been the world's longest running 'Gish gallop': friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #75

I agree. We need to ban handguns, and gun-fetishists have been Gish galloping. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #77

I don't doubt that you believe every word you write when you write it n/t friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #82

Thanks. My kids are at risk from guns. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #85

I don't believe you understand the actual meaning of what I said friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #86

I want to stop kid gun killings. And Im an optimist. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #87

We all do. The debate of the moment is how best to do that friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #88

"Getting an AR-15-style rifle is much harder in Canada than the U.S." - Largest TV network in Canada sharedvalues Feb 2018 #76

So ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #79

It seems spreading bullshit for too long causes one to start to believe what they're handing out... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #81

It's cute that your standard seems to be: "Someone else said so too, so that *proves* I'm right!" friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #80

Wow.... AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #6

Whatabout pools? Guns kill Americans, dont change the subject sharedvalues Feb 2018 #9

I read the article..it says guns are the THIRD cause of those between AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #14

Are you pro-gun control? sharedvalues Feb 2018 #17

Not your version of gun control....I MOST certainly do know about American AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #20

When would that ban have to have been put in place? Hangingon Feb 2018 #38

In the common sense of the word "child"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #5

Girl in picture, Olivia, was torn apart by semiauto rifle sharedvalues Feb 2018 #10

Good luck with that. AzureCrest Feb 2018 #22

You haven't really thought this out have you...? AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #23

He still hasn't answered how he plans to pay oneshooter Feb 2018 #27

More than likely he won't... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #31

The children of Latarsha Sanders were torn apart with a kitchen knife wielded by her. The oldest... Marengo Feb 2018 #30

If it isn't done with a knife, axe or other sharp pointy oneshooter Feb 2018 #32

How to reduce knife violence: yagotme Feb 2018 #36

The subject is gun violence. You're engaging in whataboutism. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #53

Ah, I understand. Her death is more important as it serves your agenda. Marengo Feb 2018 #55

Dead toddlers are more important than people shooting for fun. Yes. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #56

Latarsha Sanders didnt kill her children with a gun. So, lets hear some of you ideas on how... Marengo Feb 2018 #57

Stopping parents from murdering their kids because of religious delusions and... moriah Feb 2018 #60

Latarsha Sanders shouldnt have had access to a lethal weapons. Background checks for the... Marengo Feb 2018 #64

Andrea Yates shouldn't have been left alone with water, either. moriah Feb 2018 #65

Her death is important, period. flibbitygiblets Feb 2018 #89

If your agenda is no more dead kids than I imagine you given some thought on the deaths Marengo Feb 2018 #90

Godspeed sweet Angel Olivia.... samnsara Feb 2018 #51

it is so sad sharedvalues Feb 2018 #52