"A gun is designed to kill"...

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23. 2 things

But first you back track here by admitting design is independent of use, the point I tried to make in my original post. A point which you disagreed with.

The amount of force applied, and the target of that force, are completely independent of the design of the firearm, and the designers in fact design them specifically to work that way - based on user input.

Yes I get your non-argument. If a gun is intended to project force, would that force include lethal force? If lethal force is one of the types of force a gun is supposed to project, then that lethality has to be included in its design.

Another flaw you have to accept is that some guns were designed to be non-lethal, not to project any force whatsoever. That group would include parlor guns which fire projectile that would have problems penetrating human skin, unless used in a manner in which they were not designed for. The original was a Flobert.

Your problem is you are trying to defend personal protection guns, "We're trying to stop the threat not kill". A brief survey of popular defense guns and the popular cartridges they are chambered for, demonstrates their lethality.