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Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: George Zimmerman is a good example of bad problem [View all]Getting out of the car was stupid, but the actual use of the gun is a different issue.  I someone larger and stronger than I is beating my head in the sidewalk, I would do whatever I had to do to survive.
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
How well do you actually know about this case? What I know, I didn't get from the media. I actually watched the trial. In this case, with all the facts being the same, Zimmerman would be dead or a vegetable. The eye witnesses who saw Martin beating his head in the sidewalk called 911, which is why the cops showed up in less than a minute after the shot. Martin would be in prison.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=193413
New Jersey has laws similar to what you describe. That didn't work out so well for Carol Bowne did it?
http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/04/woman-fatally-stabbed-berlin-twp/28461361/
Your proposals might affect the few accidents and acts of negligence and would certainly stop people from defending themselves, a fundamental human right. Would it affect most of the murders in the US? Not close. Most of them are criminals killing each other. Most of the murders, crimes in general, are committed by very few people. A study in Redmond, California, found that ten people were responsible for over 100 of its murders.
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        OK, as a touchstone, let's replace activities about guns with voting, or using free speech.
        Big_Mike
        May 2016
        #38
      
        
        I don't think Zimmerman should have as much as the right to freedom of movement.
        Giggity
        May 2016
        #3
      
        
        I have a right to go where I want without the threat of being jumped, raped or robbed.
        Boudica the Lyoness
        May 2016
        #33
      
        
        A wife beating man who seems to get into various other conflicts including being
        MillennialDem
        May 2016
        #42
      
        
        Ok, so 4 separate women (1 in 2005 and 3 in 2013-2014) all accuse Zimmerman of domestic
        MillennialDem
        May 2016
        #53
      
        
        And recantations during domestic violence are not uncommon either - I know, my mother was a
        MillennialDem
        May 2016
        #56
      
        
        His ex in 2005 alleged domestic violence. Poor poor Georgie, he must date some really
        MillennialDem
        May 2016
        #58
      
        
        Yet, you still defend his as a great fella, because he's on team gun (note I'm not talking about
        MillennialDem
        May 2016
        #61
      
        
        So if I'm in a fist fight, if I scream for help I'm no longer a threat? Pretty hard to not be a
        MillennialDem
        May 2016
        #65
      
        
        Pretty much if you shove someone, and they hit you, then you blast them into oblivion, you're
        MillennialDem
        May 2016
        #46
      
  