Gun Control & RKBA

Nuclear Unicorn

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1. How come gun control advocates only count homicides as justifiable?

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:14 AM

Apr 2016

They never show DGUs where the criminal was just wounded or sent running away.

I would also like to see data on crimes attempted vs. completed comparing and contrasting whether or not the victim was armed or unarmed.

It would also be interesting to know how many crimes were attempted against an armed victim because the fact that the number of justifiable homicides is barely over 200 seems to suggest that even though they are armed gun owners are not simply out to kill at the first given opportunity -- as has been often suggested.

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Guns Are Rarely Used in Self-Defense [View all] SecularMotion Apr 2016 OP

How come gun control advocates only count homicides as justifiable? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #1

Because there are so few of them discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #40

Some pretty serious desperation is showing lately... theatre goon Apr 2016 #2

Hey Goon, which theatre is yours, the one in Colorado or the one in Louisiana? nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #10

You're stooping ... Straw Man Apr 2016 #11

I asked Goon, how 'bout you let him respond? nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #13

Oh, you mean it wasn't rhetorical? Straw Man Apr 2016 #15

Oh, I think Straw Man handled it quite well. theatre goon Apr 2016 #25

Yes, another rhetorical pumble that controllers use. All the time. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #22

So self-defense doesn't "count" if the attacker doesn't die. benEzra Apr 2016 #3

Yes, some of these cats are a bloody lot, I must say. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #26

Well... beevul Apr 2016 #33

The statistic is bogus. Jerry442 Apr 2016 #4

You mean, hearing the sound of a hammer cocking or a slide being racked? krispos42 Apr 2016 #14

Magic. Straw Man Apr 2016 #16

You have got to keep up the myth of guns for self defense because fasttense Apr 2016 #5

Do you have a linkable source for this? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #8

Actually, I think multiple purchases by a gun-owner may be explained more prosaically... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #28

Hold it, hold it... jmg257 Apr 2016 #6

Those people were murdered in their sleep. Nitram Apr 2016 #7

Could you expound on your comments? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #9

People shot to death in their beds. Nitram Apr 2016 #24

The OP refers to 2 distinct groups: Those unlawfully murdered and those who Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #32

I'm refering to the introduction to the OP where the sheriff implied if the people murdered Nitram Apr 2016 #34

Thank-you for taking the time to answer my questions. Sorry if I was a pest. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #39

Or better yet ... Straw Man Apr 2016 #17

I'm not in favor of capital punishment for growing pot.- Nitram Apr 2016 #23

Me neither... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #29

In rural areas? Really? Nitram Apr 2016 #30

Why, yes, many smoke doobies in rural areas. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #35

Eleanor, we're talking about dog ownership, not doobies. Nitram Apr 2016 #36

It doesn't mutt-er to me! Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #37

Nor am I. Straw Man Apr 2016 #31

Then criminal gun use is rare, too. krispos42 Apr 2016 #12

illegitimate DGUs, legitimatized jimmy the one Apr 2016 #18

Does the shooting of Mr. Smith invalidate all DGUs? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #19

You were supposed to be dazzled by sheer weight of verbiage, not ask inconvenient questions friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #38

or maybe they are sarisataka Apr 2016 #20

It only takes once... ileus Apr 2016 #27