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In reply to the discussion: For once I agree with Rand Paul. I also don't think Loretta Lynch should be Attorney General [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)24. "Case closed!" Not really, you're using a associational and/or genetic fallacy
My response to people who make arguments like yours:
https://www.google.com/search?q=kennedy+cape+wind&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com#q=kennedy+koch+%22Cape+Wind%22+site:democraticunderground.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/23/us/koch-brother-wages-12-year-fight-over-wind-farm.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Koch Brother Wages 12-Year Fight Over Wind Farm
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
OSTERVILLE, Mass. If the vast wind farm proposed for Nantucket Sound is ever built, William I. Koch will have a spectacular view of it.
Of course, that is the last thing he wants. Mr. Koch, a billionaire industrialist who made his fortune in fossil fuels and whose better-known brothers underwrite conservative political causes, has been fighting the wind farm, called Cape Wind, for more than a decade, donating about $5 million and leading an adversarial group against it. He believes that Cape Winds 130 industrial turbines would not only create what he calls visual pollution but also increase the cost of electricity for everyone.
Now, as if placing a bet on the outcome of the battle, Mr. Koch, 73, who has owned an exclusive summer compound here for years, has acquired an even grander one Rachel Mellons 26-acre waterfront estate in the gated community of Oyster Harbors, for $19.5 million. He has also bought the nearby 12-plus-acre Dupont estate. All of this adds up to a prime perch over Nantucket Sound...
...Mr. Koch is not the only opponent of Cape Wind. The late Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat, whose Hyannis family compound also looked out on Nantucket Sound, opposed the project too...
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
OSTERVILLE, Mass. If the vast wind farm proposed for Nantucket Sound is ever built, William I. Koch will have a spectacular view of it.
Of course, that is the last thing he wants. Mr. Koch, a billionaire industrialist who made his fortune in fossil fuels and whose better-known brothers underwrite conservative political causes, has been fighting the wind farm, called Cape Wind, for more than a decade, donating about $5 million and leading an adversarial group against it. He believes that Cape Winds 130 industrial turbines would not only create what he calls visual pollution but also increase the cost of electricity for everyone.
Now, as if placing a bet on the outcome of the battle, Mr. Koch, 73, who has owned an exclusive summer compound here for years, has acquired an even grander one Rachel Mellons 26-acre waterfront estate in the gated community of Oyster Harbors, for $19.5 million. He has also bought the nearby 12-plus-acre Dupont estate. All of this adds up to a prime perch over Nantucket Sound...
...Mr. Koch is not the only opponent of Cape Wind. The late Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat, whose Hyannis family compound also looked out on Nantucket Sound, opposed the project too...
Or:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/30/murdoch-bloomberg-testify_n_745499.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/15/news/la-pn-murdoch-bloomberg-applaud-obama-immigration-order-20120615
Murdoch, Bloomberg applaud Obama immigration order
June 15, 2012|By Kim Geiger
WASHINGTON President Obamas decision to allow some young illegal immigrants to work legally in the United States drew applause from business leaders across the political spectrum.
Business leaders have long argued that the United States current immigration policy makes the country less competitive.
Rupert Murdoch, chairman and chief executive of News Corp., joined Alcoa Chief Executive Klaus Kleinfeld and Viacom Chief Executive Philippe Dauman in issuing a full-throated endorsement of the presidents new policy.
We hope this prompts Congress to reach agreement on common-sense immigration policies that reflect American labor market needs and American values, the group said in a joint statement. Young people who had no choice over coming to this country, have grown up here and now want to become productive members of our society should not be treated like criminals....
June 15, 2012|By Kim Geiger
WASHINGTON President Obamas decision to allow some young illegal immigrants to work legally in the United States drew applause from business leaders across the political spectrum.
Business leaders have long argued that the United States current immigration policy makes the country less competitive.
Rupert Murdoch, chairman and chief executive of News Corp., joined Alcoa Chief Executive Klaus Kleinfeld and Viacom Chief Executive Philippe Dauman in issuing a full-throated endorsement of the presidents new policy.
We hope this prompts Congress to reach agreement on common-sense immigration policies that reflect American labor market needs and American values, the group said in a joint statement. Young people who had no choice over coming to this country, have grown up here and now want to become productive members of our society should not be treated like criminals....
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For once I agree with Rand Paul. I also don't think Loretta Lynch should be Attorney General [View all]
danriker
Feb 2015
OP
She sounds like another of Pres Obama's disappointing appointees. Not a progressive
rhett o rick
Feb 2015
#5
Their job is to overrule Congress if appropriate. That's a big part of what the SCOTUS is for.
Scuba
Feb 2015
#16
Work without pay sure sounds like "involuntary servitude", but maybe that's just me.
Scuba
Feb 2015
#21
I thought class wars began thousands of years ago, and almost always with government being of the
merrily
Feb 2015
#29
I don't support legalization of marijuana, either, unless you release ALL black and brown men
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2015
#13
I don't give a fuck about Rand Paul or what he thinks. As long as he's
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2015
#23
"Case closed!" Not really, you're using a associational and/or genetic fallacy
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2015
#24
There is nothing you can tell me, no article you can post, or write that would EVER lead me to
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2015
#25
Pointing out that a racist is correct on *one* subject isn't giving them a character reference
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2015
#32
If Paul said that 2+2=4, those who pointed out that he was correct in that instance would be...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2015
#33
Our interlocutor seems bent on avoiding actually discussing what Riker brought up
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2015
#34