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Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
11. Advice from a plumber.
Wed May 20, 2020, 11:46 AM
May 2020

For what it is worth, I have a master plumber license in three states.

The most cost effective way of dealing with your issue is have that vent cap fixed. That will have to be done regardless of what other steps you take. I believe that the missing cap is allowing wind to blow out your pilot.

It takes no special skill to replace that cap, it simply twists on, so no plumber or gas mechanic is needed. Anyone who is not afraid to go up on your roof can fix the thing. If you don't have the old cap, you can buy one cheaply at Lowes or Home Depot.

Since you have to fix that issue, do that first. If you don't fix it, you are allowing rain and bugs into your home. You may also have a problem with a thermocouple, but I doubt it. Thermocouple replacement is one of the least expensive repairs to make.

To answer your question about sizing the water heater, even a 30 gallon gas tank-type heater would serve one person without a problem.

A tankless water heater will save money in energy use and would serve your needs, but it is going to be quite expensive to change out and it will be a long time in seeing any cost benefit. In fact, it may not last long enough to pay for the cost of installation. Tank type heaters are very simple, they last a long time, and they are easily repaired.

If you decide that you want to change to a smaller tank-type heater, do not be impressed by anything other than the energy rating of the unit. When you pay for a big name heater, you are paying for the name only. I have never been able to see a difference in quality in any tank type heater, except for the quality of their insulation and thus energy rating. It is not a big secret, your plumber makes more money if he sells you more stuff, many or most will try to sell you more than you need.

Bottom line is this: If money is no issue, swap to a gas type tankless heater. If money is an issue, fix your present unit, or replace it with a 30 gallon gas heater. I would fix it.

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Need water heater advice [View all] quaint May 2020 OP
I would look at a tankless heater. Can be gas or 220v. I got one years ago and love it. CurtEastPoint May 2020 #1
Can you take long showers? quaint May 2020 #2
Tankless heaters mean not running out of hot water. Not sure GreenPartyVoter May 2020 #4
Great information. quaint May 2020 #7
Yep, Rinnai here. Works like a champ and the gas bill for hot water, clothes drying and cooking CurtEastPoint May 2020 #9
Mine is mounted outside. It takes maybe a minute to get fully hot. CurtEastPoint May 2020 #5
Yes, it produces hot water as long as it's needed. Well, given constraints on how many... CurtEastPoint Jul 2020 #28
Another vote for tankless. we can do it Jul 2020 #27
You can replace it with an electric tank randr May 2020 #3
I was hoping the 220 in my laundry would make it reasonable. quaint May 2020 #6
The 220 in laundry is dedicated to your dryer randr May 2020 #12
I realized if I broke any part of me, it would end my freedom. quaint May 2020 #14
I can't offer any substantial advice on what to get, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #8
I've clicked the not-an-emergency box quaint May 2020 #10
Okay, that makes sense now. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #15
Advice from a plumber. Chainfire May 2020 #11
The rest of my story. quaint May 2020 #13
A licensed plumber ought to be qualified to check and repair the venting Kaleva May 2020 #16
Definitely need a permit here, gotta keep our city solvent. quaint May 2020 #17
Most cities do not require permits for routine repairs. Chainfire Feb 2021 #31
Four times heater restarted; boom; out goes the fire. quaint Feb 2021 #32
Your description of your problem suggests that you need a pro to look at your heater. Chainfire Feb 2021 #35
The most recent visit was from a plumber. quaint Feb 2021 #36
For the past couple of days, my hot water has a rusty tinge to it, but my cold water runs clear. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2021 #30
what city are you in? nt msongs May 2020 #18
The bellybutton of the Beast. quaint May 2020 #19
Tankless hot water heaters are a great option , but.. AZ8theist May 2020 #20
I wish I could install it myself. quaint May 2020 #21
Don't you have a cutoff to the main coming into the house? AZ8theist May 2020 #22
Well, duh. quaint May 2020 #23
I'm so sorry quant.. AZ8theist May 2020 #24
Thank you. quaint May 2020 #25
Need water heater advice Ovens1986 Jul 2020 #26
I also have a Bradford White Major Nikon Jul 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Chainfire Feb 2021 #33
I have never seen any big difference in brands and, when in business, advised my customers Chainfire Feb 2021 #34
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