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In reply to the discussion: Guilt [View all]

jfz9580m

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22. Thank you Sparkly
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 11:42 PM
Aug 24

Last edited Mon Aug 25, 2025, 05:32 AM - Edit history (1)

(I will compose a more detailed reply later today. Leaving this as a placeholder. )

I do feel guilty. I am scientist by training so I am cautious with any position on things without a better fleshed out model and mechanism.

But Metformin unambiguously seemed to be a drug of the type, where having gone on it once, it was a bad idea to go off it. Her cancer seemed sensitive to it.

There’s a doctor whose writing I rather like. He explains it well here:

https://www.salon.com/2025/05/20/dont-fight-uncertainty-embrace-it-2/

As a physician, I’m used to uncertainty. Most medical problems transpire inside the body, hidden from view. I can’t touch the clot in a patient’s coronary, or see their stroke in the same way I can see a flat tire. At work, I can rarely be totally certain about anything. That’s just the nature of medicine. As Canadian physician William Osler said, medicine is “a science of uncertainty, and an art of probability.” But it’s also the nature of the world. I can’t personally verify the weather in Tucson, or general relativity, or the reality of climate change, either.

Instead, I weigh and consider a constellation of indirect information, and make a judgment about what I think is likely true. To do this, I’ve been taught to think in probabilities, as Osler suggested, because probability is a yardstick for uncertainty. Physicians and scientists everywhere are trained to think this way. But this kind of thinking, called Bayesian inference (after the English mathematician and clergyman Thomas Bayes), is something that can benefit everyone. Especially in a time when the basic facts of what’s real, and what’s not, have come into question.


I am not a doctor and my field in science is far removed from cancer. But as a care-giver, I had a feel for how my mother was responding to treatment. I learnt odd factoids from the experience of taking care of my parents, such as that antibiotics like furantoin can increase your creatinine levels..

The grey areas of human health can be hard for people to navigate under scrutiny and when liability rather than care of quality is the main concern in healthcare related settings. This was the end or perhaps middle of the pandemic (Nov 2021).

She had an excellent oncologist. He is mine as well..i really like him. But the hospital had deteriorated over the course of the pandemic. My doctor left soon after and is at a different hospital now. Just the year before her hospital was pretty good. By the time she passed away it was this busy, invasive place with an overall diminished quality of care. It was a sense impression but distinct.

I am doing okay. I sometimes try to feel more remote from everything and that works for me. My mom would have wanted me to progress as far as I could in my work and after a long and dreary break I am trying now.

Bruce’s Spider would be weary by now ;-/…
I still like science and facts so..cautious optimism I guess.

Thank you

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Guilt [View all] Sparkly Jan 2025 OP
I wish I had some truly helpful answers, or at least suggestions, for you, niyad Jan 2025 #1
That is exactly what I need -- thank you! Sparkly Jan 2025 #2
You are most welcome. I am often up late ( this is not late), if you need niyad Jan 2025 #3
I felt similar with my family after my heart episode blm Jan 2025 #4
Thank you. Sparkly Jan 2025 #7
Please don't feel guilty. Frasier Balzov Jan 2025 #5
That perspective is reality, as well. Sparkly Jan 2025 #8
Some Thoughts PikaBlue Jan 2025 #6
WOW - thank you so very much for this!! Sparkly Jan 2025 #9
I love you, Sparkly XanaDUer2 Jan 2025 #10
I love you back Sparkly Jan 2025 #12
I do not know if this is helpful at all but the process of my mom's Maraya1969 Jan 2025 #11
I think I know what you mean Sparkly Jan 2025 #13
I am so sorry this haunts you purr-rat beauty Feb 2025 #14
Thank you. Sparkly Feb 2025 #15
Checking in, how are you? purr-rat beauty Feb 2025 #16
Kind of you to ask, thank you. Sparkly Mar 2025 #17
I'm sorry you are feeling guilt for something you have no control over Lifeafter70 May 2025 #18
When my father died, my stepmother said something that has always stuck with me. NNadir Jul 28 #19
I can relate jfz9580m Aug 7 #20
Metformin Sparkly Aug 23 #21
Thank you Sparkly jfz9580m Aug 24 #22
I'm glad you are doing okay! Sparkly Sep 5 #23
She did always want me to become a real scientist jfz9580m Sep 7 #24
Thanks for your post, Sparkly Laurelin Oct 6 #25
(books) Ditch guilt. Replace with acceptance of reality, which does not mean giving up. It means better focus Bernardo de La Paz Oct 6 #26
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