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superbeachnut

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66. No melted steel on 911, only fire.

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 02:20 PM

Jun 2014

No steel melted on 911, no rational people say so.

The jet fuel was found to be trivial compared to the office fires. Look at the heat energy...
Heat energy before collapse from office fires - Estimates for WTC 1, 8,000 GJ, and 3,000 GJ for WTC 2 - jet fuel 1,300 GJ.
Office fire win, they were much more heat than the jet fuel. The jet fuel was only equal to the heat energy of 315 TONS of thermite, or TNT. Do you know what a joule is? A gigajoule, GJ? Science beats 911 truth claims of CD born in ignorance.

Steel fails quickly in fire, and that is why it is insulated to survive 2 hours with insulation in place.

Steel fails in fire.

This is so simple, steel fails in fire, why did the structural wood beat steal in fire?

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Building 7 [View all] wildbilln864 Mar 2014 OP

and... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #1

Fucking gravity, how does that work? (n/t) William Seger Mar 2014 #2

yep wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #3

Gravity doesn't know or care why the columns failed William Seger Mar 2014 #4

LOL! Politicalboi Jun 2014 #36

So, you haven't read the NIST WTC7 report? William Seger Jun 2014 #42

It's nice to know that your argument from incredulity... AZCat Jun 2014 #43

gravity doesn't know or care.... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #40

PULL IT and the BBC video - WTC7 won't go away Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #5

Larry Silverstein clearly meant that they needed to pull the firemen back cpwm17 Apr 2014 #6

Could you cite an example nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #8

Larry Silverstein was talking to the Fire Department commander cpwm17 Apr 2014 #9

Sleazy truthers? Politicalboi Apr 2014 #11

There you go cpwm17 Apr 2014 #12

As I said in another thread I don't think any evidence will be enough. AZCat Apr 2014 #13

Spare us Politicalboi May 2014 #19

Well, there you go. AZCat May 2014 #23

+1000. IronGate May 2014 #24

I NEVER accused the FDNY of being in on anything Politicalboi May 2014 #18

Here are the Pentagon debris images cpwm17 May 2014 #27

We are NOT accusing firemen of ANYTHING Politicalboi Jun 2014 #37

The BEEB's Jane Standley was back 3 hours later nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #7

The fire department knew WTC7 was going to collapse before it collapsed cpwm17 Apr 2014 #10

I doubt there were 300 firemen in WTC 7 Politicalboi May 2014 #21

They certainly did hear and fail explosions jberryhill May 2014 #28

So, what you are saying is.... jberryhill May 2014 #14

All these CT's about WTC7 just crack me the hell up. IronGate May 2014 #15

"I heard something go pop" jberryhill May 2014 #16

You've got that right. IronGate May 2014 #17

LOL! Yeah the real world Politicalboi May 2014 #20

I'll hazard a guess and say I have far more experience IronGate May 2014 #22

well sure you do... wildbilln864 May 2014 #25

As if I give a shit whether or not you believe it. IronGate May 2014 #26

please.... wildbilln864 May 2014 #31

NIST Temperature summary from NCSTAR 1A nationalize the fed May 2014 #29

great post! n/t wildbilln864 May 2014 #32

Your argument only is significant to the ignorant. AZCat May 2014 #33

steel is steel. wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #48

No it isn't, nor is heat transfer that simple. AZCat Jun 2014 #65

No melted steel on 911, only fire. superbeachnut Jun 2014 #66

Was it 10 stories a second? Politicalboi Jun 2014 #38

It's not a matter of believing it, it's my experience living it. IronGate Jun 2014 #44

The science backs you up too. AZCat Jun 2014 #45

I've attended several Fire Science Academy's during my 20+ Fire Service career, IronGate Jun 2014 #46

nonsense! Idiots believe the official conspiracy theory! wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #47

Speak of the devil. IronGate Jun 2014 #49

My experience is constructing buildings wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #50

13 years and you can't figure out 911 superbeachnut Jun 2014 #51

"That didn't happen on 911" ?!? William Seger Jun 2014 #52

I have no hereos in this matter... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #57

"Building 7! Symetric collapse just like CD til out of sight. " William Seger Jun 2014 #61

I'm having a very difficult time believing a word from him with statements like this: IronGate Jun 2014 #62

It was a CD wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #63

Yeah, riiiight. IronGate Jun 2014 #64

building 7! n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #67

What about it? IronGate Jul 2014 #68

So IOW, you have zero real world experience with burning buildings and how fire IronGate Jun 2014 #53

more bullshit! wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #55

LOL, IronGate Jun 2014 #56

schooled huh? wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #58

Really? IronGate Jun 2014 #54

well fuck you got me... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #59

The fires were weak and oxygen starved? IronGate Jun 2014 #60

blah blah, yada, yada yah! wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #70

You want to believe I'm stupid, have at it if that's what re-enforces your CT's or IronGate Jul 2014 #71

Presumably there was no asbestos in 7 nationalize the fed May 2014 #30

Remind me again - where was the asbestos in the towers? AZCat May 2014 #34

sleazy anti-truthers! n/t wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #35

LOL! Politicalboi Jun 2014 #39

Yes, of course we're the sleazy ones cpwm17 Jul 2014 #72

what an idiotic post you made. wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #73

10 more seconds on the clock for those who can't figure out 911 superbeachnut Jul 2014 #74

People that care about facts don't blame obviously innocent people for terrible crimes cpwm17 Jul 2014 #75

correct there. has nothing to do with what I said though. wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #76

You are making fun of my use of the term "sleazy truthers" cpwm17 Jul 2014 #77

"an unbiased investigation" William Seger Jul 2014 #78

+1000. IronGate Jul 2014 #79

A gravity collape due to fire - The video is a lie, why do people make up dirt dumb lies about 911 superbeachnut Jun 2014 #41

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