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William Seger

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19. Huh?
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:59 PM
Mar 2012

I still have no idea what you're trying to say about "50 stories of debris." It would help if you would clearly state what you are taking as facts or premises and what inferences you are drawing.

> If they are going to show us how it happened, isn't a good idea to see the real end result? Their "pancake theory" doesn't make sense. That is what the "debunkers" always go to. The floors fell on top of one another.

I have no idea what you are referring to as "they are going to show us," but again, the "pancake theory" means a specific early theory about what initiated the tower collapses, which was not substantiated by analysis of the design and the evidence, so I don't know why you keep mentioning it. After the collapse started, the floors certainly did "pancake" down, as proved by all the failed floor connections found in the debris.

> That in itself would take a while to happen, and there would be resistance.

You don't know what you are talking about. Of course there was resistance, but the impulse forces delivered by the falling debris was so large that the floor connections could only resist for a tiny fraction of a second. When they broke free from their supports, the debris was in free-fall to the next floor.

> Those buildings fell 10 stories a second, you know free fall speed. Like WTC 7.

"Free fall" is an acceleration, not a speed. The floors of the towers were destroyed at an accelerating rate, but the rate was only about 64% of free fall. What rate should we expect? On the one hand, we have precise mathematical models performed by people who know how to calculate the resistance of the structure and the accumulating momentum, which agree well with the rate that was seen in the towers. On the other hand, we have the incredulity of people who don't know what they are talking about.

As for your stale propaganda video from 2006, I'm not interested in wasting time on it, but others already have.

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NOT Cutter Charges in the North Tower [View all] William Seger Mar 2012 OP
Chandler makes mountains out of molehills. ryan_cats Mar 2012 #1
Ok then Politicalboi Mar 2012 #2
Why do you think that's hard to explain? William Seger Mar 2012 #3
The rational reason is Politicalboi Mar 2012 #4
Nonsense William Seger Mar 2012 #7
I'm sorry I get flustered at times Politicalboi Mar 2012 #14
Huh? William Seger Mar 2012 #19
Easily ryan_cats Mar 2012 #5
I trust you saw the lobby pictures Politicalboi Mar 2012 #6
Ever hear of the meteor? ryan_cats Mar 2012 #8
I guess the janitor who worked there Politicalboi Mar 2012 #12
You're talking about Willie Rodriguez. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #13
No, Willie said Politicalboi Mar 2012 #15
One elevator shaft is all you need to let the explosion get down there. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #16
So explosives were set off in the basement to cause a collapse an hour later? hack89 Mar 2012 #17
His name is Willie Rodriguez. ryan_cats Mar 2012 #18
your analysis doesn't prove anything NoMoreWarNow Mar 2012 #9
My analysis doesn't prove it isn't an orc smoking a cigar, either William Seger Mar 2012 #10
What, no defense of your 'theory'? ryan_cats Apr 2012 #21
I guess no matter what we are going to disagree Politicalboi Mar 2012 #11
"no matter what" ? William Seger Mar 2012 #20
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) karlaa Jun 2012 #22
kick! nt apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #23
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