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NNadir

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1. It's not like we've run out of ecosystems to fuck up for reactionary fantasies, have we? There are still more...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 04:58 AM
Nov 2024

...more shorelines to lace with plastic floats and wiring, so let's get to it.

Of course, LA harbor, if one has been there, is already an industrial park, so it's not quite as bad as say, tearing the shit out of thousands of square miles of once pristine desert in California for wind turbines that can't produce as much electricity as the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Plant can produce on a 12 acre footprint.

Diablo Canyon Nuclear Plant Output 2023 (12 acre footprint): 17,714 GWh.

All the fucking wind turbines in California 2023 spread over untold square miles of ruined landscapes: 13,920 GWh.

California Energy Commission (accessed 11/19/2024).

Personally, I've been hearing about wave power for my whole adult life, and I'm certainly not a young man.

All that bullshit, promoted on websites powered by electricity overwhelmingly generated by gas and coal hasn't done a damned thing to change this outcome:

Week beginning on November 10, 2024: 423.60 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 421.00 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 397.33 ppm
Last updated: November 18, 2024

Weekly average CO2 at Mauna Loa

But of course, we shouldn't give a flying fuck about numbers, should we? It's FIRST!! On Shore Wave Power, FIRST!! Hydrogen This! FIRST!! Hydrogen That! FIRST!! Solar! FIRST!! Wind, year after year, decade after decade, no matter how many fossil fuels are burned, no matter how much wilderness burns from extreme global heating.

The chants have lost all meaning, long after the reactionary fantasy lost all sense of rationality. The reactionary "renewables will save us" rhetoric has played out, in flames.

It's certainly not the FIRST!! time we've heard carrying on about wave power, which doesn't, after decades of hearing about it, doesn't even show up in the WEO data below as measurable.

It's 2024. It is still true that 8 + 8 EJ (solar and wind) is not greater than 30 (nuclear) EJ, nor is it an appreciable fraction of 676, in percent talk, certainly not one that matters a little over 2%, this after trillions squandered on solar and wind, this on a planet where over 1.5 billion people still do not have basic sanitation services, such as private toilets or latrines.

Happy talk! Of course, I'm less than happy that there are people who believe that 8 + 8 is greater than 30, and who lack the intellectual depth to stop crowing about as much. Floating crap in Los Angeles Harbor is not going to a damned thing to slow the vast ongoing tragedy.




IEA World Energy Outlook 2024

Table A.1a: World energy supply Page 296.


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It's not like we've run out of ecosystems to fuck up for reactionary fantasies, have we? There are still more... NNadir Nov 2024 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Nov 2024 #2
Figure 1.14 Global installed clean power capacity and electricity generation, 2010-2023 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #3
Figure 2.1 - Global total energy supply, 2010-2023 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #4
Figure 2.15 IEA indices for clean energy and upstream oil and gas, and global average price of selected clean energy... OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #5
Figure 3.1 - Global total energy supply by source and fossil fuel share by scenario, 2000-2050 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #6
Figure 3.3 - Global installed capacity of renewables, 2010-2030, and emissions reductions by scenario, 2023-2030 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #7
How pretty! Replete with soothsaying! None of it... NNadir Nov 2024 #11
Do you trust the report or not? OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #13
I trust the DATA in the report, not the soothsaying. An educated person, as opposed to a credulous rube... NNadir Nov 2024 #15
OK, here's a table for you OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #16
Um, it is apparently a waste of time to do what should be... NNadir Nov 2024 #17
Table B.4a Technology costs in selected regions in the Stated Policies Scenario OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #18
Table B.4a (Edited) OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #19
Figure 3.21 - Global electricity generation by source and scenario, 1990-2050 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #8
Figure 3.24 - Share of renewables in electricity generation by country/region and scenario, 2015-2035 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #9
Figure 3.27 - Power sector investment by technology and scenario, and share in emerging market and developing economies, OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #10
Figure 3.42 - Clean energy technology contribution to energy combustion CO2 emissions reduction in the APS, 2023-2050 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #12
Table A.1a - In Context OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #14
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