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highplainsdem

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2. Same here - had heard his name but not his music. I found it immediately appealing...and I
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:20 PM
Sunday

immediately thought of your taste in music and guessed you'd like these videos even if you hadn't heard him before.

I wanted to know more about him - you know I like to research artists - and the first artist who'd come to mind when I was listening to him was Willie Nelson. But the Wikipedia article on him didn't mention Willie, other than Hayes recording his debut album at Willie's Pedernales Studio.

So I googled

hayes carll willie nelson

and saw a number of results on the first page about him being influenced by Willie (and Kris Kristifferson, Bob Dylan, Jerry Jeff Walker, Jimmy Buffett, Kenny Rogers, among others).

But it was the first result on the page that really got my attention, with its headline:

Hayes Carll Responds to Steve Earle Diss with New Song at Willie’s 4th of July Picnic
https://savingcountrymusic.com/hayes-carll-responds-to-steve-earle-diss-with-new-song-at-willies-4th-of-july-picnic/

When Steve Earle threw Hayes Carll under the bus in mid June by calling Hayes a “younger, skinnier, less talented singer-songwriter” than himself, it set up a potential showdown at Willie Nelson’s annual 4th of July Picnic where both men were scheduled to play this year. Held just outside of Austin at the Circuit of the Americas, Willie’s 2017 lineup included Jamey Johnson, the Turnpike Troubadours, Kacey Musgraves, Margo Price, as well as Earle and Carll.

The original Steve Earle quote came from The Guardian, and was in the context of Earle’s ex-wife Allison Moorer leaving him for Hayes. It was also in the midst of the roll out of Steve’s latest record So You Wanna Be An Outlaw where Earle went on the warpath against numerous individuals, including Noel Gallagher, Richard Buckner, and others.

This left many wondering how awkward it would be if Hayes and Earle crossed paths backstage. However the two men were set to play on different stages, with Carll playing on the main pavilion stage, and Steve Earle headlining the plaza stage. Carll played first at about 4:30 p.m., and according to numerous accounts, near the end of his set, said he was going to play a song he hadn’t done before live, and it prominently included the lyric, “I think she left you because you wouldn’t shut your mouth.” Hayes didn’t say the title of the song, or if it might show up on a future project.

This put all eyes on the always-outspoken Steve Earle, who played about two hours later. But no gruff was returned from the 62-year-old, at least not Hayes Carll’s way.

-snip-


Noel Gallagher of Oasis was about the last person whose name I'd've expected to run across, reading about Hayes or Steve Earle. But I found that interview Steve had done for The Guardian

Steve Earle: 'My wife left me for a younger, skinnier, less talented singer'
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/14/steve-earle-so-you-wanna-be-an-outlaw-interview

where, with a lot of other complaining, he had taken a swipe at Noel and Oasis:

Not that Earle has ever needed encouragement to say what he thinks. A keen Arsenal fan, he pulls a face when I mention I support Manchester City. “I dislike Man City because it is Oasis’s club. Noel Gallagher is the most overrated songwriter in the whole history of pop music. They were perfect for the Brit press because they behaved badly and got all the attention. Blur were really great. That guy Damon Albarn is a real fuckin’ songwriter.”


He sounded more than a little childish and jealous there (disliking a football team because someone you're jealous of supports it? really?).

And Noel responded - https://www.stereogum.com/1971921/noel-gallagher-has-a-new-album-so-we-talked-to-him-about-taylor-swift-morrissey-and-his-latest-beef-with-liam/interviews/ - in an interview with Stereogum:

STEREOGUM: Do you know Steve Earle? He called you the most overrated songwriter in pop history this year.

GALLAGHER: I’ve heard of his name. Yeah. I’d probably tend to agree with him. I do get a lot of adulation and it makes me uncomfortable. But Steve Earle should enjoy what’s left of his fucking hairdo. D’you know what I mean? Yeah, just enjoy what’s left of his hairdo and write a decent chorus.


Anyway, I will be learning more about Hayes. Really like what I've learned so far.

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