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Old Crank

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10. A couple of points about taxation
Sat May 23, 2026, 12:23 PM
20 hrs ago

The US and Germany have a tax treaty. I assume they have treaties with other countries also.
Since I live in Germany, Germany gets first bite of the apple. I get taxed on income at German rates. Then I file US forms and get taxed on income that the Germans didn't tax on and or any amount that the US would tax more than Germany on.

An example.
A couple of years ago we sold our US house. We got dinged for Capital gains from the US because there are no capital gains on houses if you have help them for 5 -10 years.

We paid very little US tax until my wife retired. Now our German tax advisor has managed to reduce our tax burden here but... we now pay more to the US.

If you live in Switzerland it is even messier because income taxes are by canton....

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A Dual-Citizenship Question wyn borkins Yesterday #1
Couple of tax-related dual-citizenship facts... BobsYourUncle Yesterday #5
Watching Out...(Now) wyn borkins Yesterday #6
A couple of points about taxation Old Crank 20 hrs ago #10
Yeah, I skipped a lot of stuff... BobsYourUncle 16 hrs ago #22
Yup. Old Crank 7 hrs ago #27
If like most workers you've paid taxes Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #2
Remove Miller liberalgunwilltravel Yesterday #3
I have a suggestion for a question on a tax form. 70sEraVet Yesterday #4
Another bullshit IRS box to just ignore. Avoiding taxes is SO easy for SO many. Callie1979 22 hrs ago #7
The Billionaires, popsdenver 21 hrs ago #8
In Europe we have both Old Crank 20 hrs ago #11
BINGO NC popsdenver 20 hrs ago #14
and yet their tax systems seem to work far better than OURS. Callie1979 20 hrs ago #17
I'm all for it. 100s of well-paying careers can easily avoid taxes. Cant avoid a VAT Callie1979 20 hrs ago #18
True popsdenver 19 hrs ago #21
Wasn't it already decided this question was illegal? Bayard 21 hrs ago #9
Not sure Old Crank 20 hrs ago #12
Now that I think about it..... Bayard 15 hrs ago #23
They also wanted to put it on the voter registration forms BumRushDaShow 13 hrs ago #25
Well, let's see here, someone who is not a US citizen, but on a green card, check the box.... ashredux 20 hrs ago #13
Imagine being that dumb. SamuelAdams 20 hrs ago #15
That question is insane. Even undocumented residents are required to file tax returns (especially alwaysinasnit 20 hrs ago #16
Even illegal income is taxable!! Callie1979 20 hrs ago #19
... alwaysinasnit 19 hrs ago #20
Will this include Melania............ turbinetree 13 hrs ago #24
Well then green card holders and those who are undocumented choie 12 hrs ago #26
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