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Hegseth cites 'fog of war' in defending follow-on strike in scrutinized attack on alleged drug boat [View all]

Source: AP

Updated 2:10 PM EST, December 2, 2025

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth cited the “fog of war” in defending a follow-up strike on an alleged drug-carrying boat in the Caribbean Sea earlier this year.

During Tuesday’s cabinet meeting at the White House, Hegseth said that he did not see that there were survivors in the water when the second strike was ordered and launched in early September, saying that “the thing was on fire” and citing the “fog of war” in defending the strike.

Hegseth also said he “didn’t stick around” for the remainder of the mission following the first strike, and said that the admiral in charge had “made the right call” in ordering it, which he “had complete authority to do.”

The Washington Post first reported that Hegseth issued a verbal order for the second strike that killed survivors on the boat. On Monday, the White House said that Navy Vice Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley acted “within his authority and the law” when he ordered the second strike.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-trump-venezuela-540ae279827e02105e089f1bd5af37a6

“the thing was on fire”

What is a "thing"? It was a civilian boat with civilians on it. No one bothered to board it to determine what its intentions were.

citing the “fog of war”

When did the U.S. (CONGRESS) "declare war"?

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Circling back to kill civilians floating in the water is MURDER, not fog of war. Irish_Dem Tuesday #1

There is no F...king War. Not even a Congressional Resolution, but less a Congressional Declaration of War. hlthe2b Tuesday #2

Exactly. There is NO WAR. We are looking at MURDER. Irish_Dem Tuesday #12

Right?! What war? yardwork Tuesday #20

Killing men just fishing on their boat is called murder. Irish_Dem Tuesday #21

I Get The Impression RobinA Wednesday #49

Yes. He is the one in an alcohol ego fog. Irish_Dem Yesterday #52

Kelly was right. This is all a big game to them. ananda Tuesday #3

I missed the part where we declared war on Venezuela. Ray Bruns Tuesday #4

More like the fog of too much booze.nt moniss Tuesday #5

Lol, beat me to it! Blumancru Tuesday #29

Drunk on Power 2na fisherman Tuesday #43

Gee. If Robert McNamara could go stock free by writing a book about "Fog of War" erronis Tuesday #6

Not defending Robert McNamara, but this is no comparison ... FakeNoose Tuesday #24

There was the Tonkin Gulf Resolution of August 1964 RazorbackExpat Tuesday #35

Just heard a replay of Pete's "fog of war" blather. He doesn't even know what allegorical oracle Tuesday #25

You are right. From Pete's perspective, the fog is after the 4th or 5th shot of whiskey. erronis Tuesday #28

What a fucking joke. chowder66 Tuesday #7

Total fucking bullshit. He's a fucking liar and murderer. LymphocyteLover Tuesday #8

Since when have we been at war? Did Congress declare war and I missed it?? Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #9

A leader in his position... Mike Nelson Tuesday #10

You would need the other side returning fire for it to be a fog of war. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #11

The "fog of war"? Inf**kingcredible! patphil Tuesday #13

"fog of war" my old soldier ass AverageOldGuy Tuesday #14

You need to change your moniker. COL Mustard Tuesday #41

"Fog of war" is how women describe the feeling after Hegseth has been near their drinks Prairie Gates Tuesday #15

Kegsbreath lying again sakabatou Tuesday #16

So Bradley will be giving a classified briefing on Thursday, Native Tuesday #17

Is that what they're calling drunken stupor now? Buddyzbuddy Tuesday #18

Just exactly how much chaos and uncertainty (fog) is there when no one is shooting back at you? LudwigPastorius Tuesday #19

Fog of cosplaying. If he can't HANDLE a fisherman boat, what about a fleet of destroyers? WEAK!!! nt Exp Tuesday #22

"Fog of War"? sheshe2 Tuesday #23

He's full of shit Warpy Tuesday #26

Hegseth is trying to throw Admiral Bradley under the bus. TomSlick Tuesday #27

Fog of murder. Harker Tuesday #30

Us folks that aren't handsome lethal warriors, call it being shit faced. Swede Tuesday #31

Speaking of that, I just spotted this story - BumRushDaShow Tuesday #32

That raccoon was framed. He was just the wingman. nt eppur_se_muova Tuesday #33

Oh my God, that's hilarious!!!! COL Mustard Tuesday #40

Does he mean 'the fog of BEER'? I think he means the fog of beer.. Jack Valentino Tuesday #34

The murderous jerk has gone to "the fog of war" defense. Lame. This ain't Vietnam dude. BradBo Tuesday #36

'Fog of War' Aussie105 Tuesday #37

Paging Admiral Bradley...your bus is waiting.... COL Mustard Tuesday #38

More like enigmania Tuesday #39

Hegseth loves terms like "fog of war", it makes him feel manly BlueWaveNeverEnd Tuesday #42

The only fog is between his ears. Sneederbunk Tuesday #44

What war? Was anybody shooting back? DFW Wednesday #45

Is everyone on Trump's team role playing? Aussie105 Wednesday #46

One of the great 'fog of war' scenes is in Stendhal's "Charterhouse of Parma' dedl67 Wednesday #47

Winners call it war. Losers are called terrorists. The law calls it murder or war crime JT45242 Wednesday #48

Maybe an "alcoholic fog"? Bastards, anyway you cut it! electric_blue68 Wednesday #50

War? liberal N proud Wednesday #51