'These results are sobering': US high-school seniors' reading and math scores plummet

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47. Point well taken. Since Ivies are full of entitled prep school kids, even for them it still holds true that one only

gets out of an education what one puts into it, no matter where they go, expensive university or not. And so we see a lot of mediocre rich kids in the billionaire world, e.g., trump, and also see good ones in that world like JB Pritzker (Juris Doctor, Northwestern), and Gavin Newsom (Santa Clara University).

It's also true that though Ivies are expensive, and even if one doesn't get in, one can still make the most of higher ed since the upper half of universities are mostly state universities. If one affords one of those and is ambitious like Obama was, they can often work their way into an Ivy (like Columbia) through a transfer (from Occidental). Many Ivy grads have come in as transfers, and those schools' endowments afford lower income students some financial help. So it's true, too, that "you get what you work for..." (In my case, a one year scholarship and a couple of mentors who believed in me, were enough to get me from FSU to Northwestern)