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BumRushDaShow

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Sat Sep 20, 2025, 02:41 PM Saturday

Charlie Kirk assassin's alleged gun was powerful, vintage and hard to trace [View all]

Source: NBC News

Sept. 20, 2025, 5:00 AM EDT


In the frantic hours after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, investigators discovered a gun in a wooded area near the scene in northern Utah. The federal agents seeking to trace the weapon faced a daunting task.

It was a decades-old, German-made rifle built for use by the military in both World Wars, according to multiple law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation. So old that it may have been brought into the U.S. before laws were enacted in the 1960s requiring guns to be affixed with serial numbers or other marks to enable tracing. There are believed to be millions of such weapons in homes across America.

Fortunately for investigators, the alleged shooter was identified through other means — his family — who convinced him to surrender to police. But the alleged use of such a vintage weapon has raised fears among some former federal agents of the potential for other would-be assassins to seek out these powerful, accurate and hard-to-trace firearms.

“Short of the security afforded to the president, there’s no way to defend against the threat posed by this,” said Scott Sweetow, a retired official with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kirk-assassins-alleged-gun-was-powerful-vintage-hard-trace-rcna231334



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I don't think there is any issue that the gun is or is not the murder weapon Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #1
They have serial numbers. James48 Saturday #2
OK More of this official story is BS. If this was a WWII German rifle it is a 7.92x57mm Mauser. flashman13 Saturday #3
Century Arms alone sold tons of sporterized Mausers rebarreled to .30-06, dirt cheap sl8 Saturday #5
I bow to your superior knowlege. Nothing more reliable than internet posts in which the FBI reported it as a flashman13 Saturday #7
Question: Before those surplus WWII rifles were sold wouldn't they have been stamped with a serial number? flashman13 Saturday #8
Yes, after that requirement was instituted. 1968 Gun Control Act, I think. nt sl8 Saturday #12
They probably had serial numbers before they originally left the Mauser factory. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Saturday #14
Yes, good point. nt sl8 Saturday #16
The average reporter is not competent to report intelligently on specifics about firearms, Jack Valentino Saturday #17
You can get Gew 1888 mausers shipped directly to your door without any paperwork. I believe it used the first smokeless ImNotGod Saturday #4
It was his Grandfathers gun and it had a $2000 scope on it is what I heard. Ellipsis Saturday #6
Grandpa's gun? Old war surplus rifle? $2000 scope sight? Paladin Saturday #9
Don't over think it. n/t Ellipsis Saturday #10
Good advice. Think I'll take it. (nt) Paladin Saturday #11
Thanks for that.... thought perhaps I was a being a bit short... Ellipsis Saturday #13
I've been in DU gun discussions for 24 years, now. Pretty hard to get me riled. Paladin Saturday #15
The scope was added long afterwards, obviously.... Jack Valentino Saturday #18
Private sellers are not required to record serial numbers of guns sold Kaleva Saturday #19
Ban unregistered guns and confiscate them, please. LudwigPastorius Saturday #20
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