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35. We all watched that disastrous debate last June.

Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:44 PM

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Joe Biden was a great president who exceeded my expectations with regard to his progressive policies and accomplishments. That said, he should have never sought a second term.

Soon after Biden won in 2020 he said that he views himself as a "transition president", leading many to believe that he only intended to serve one term. Anyone who continues to believe that he would have beaten Trump had he stayed in the race is not facing the fact that internal polling showed that Biden would have lost to Trump in a landslide.

How could anyone who watched that disastrous debate continue to believe that Joe Biden was up to the job for a second term? And let me be clear, that's not knocking Joe Biden, that is simply recognizing the reality of Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

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Gov. Josh Shapiro says Kamala Harris will 'have to answer' for not speaking out about Biden [View all] Jose Garcia Thursday OP

So we are at the point were Democrats are threatening each other? nt ImNotGod Thursday #1

Did we ever leave that point? AleksS Thursday #20

And why doesn't he take this issue up with Biden directly? Random Boomer Friday #41

Maybe because the VP can initiate the 25th Amendment?? Captain Zero Friday #54

I believe Gov Shapiro meant that former VP Harris would have to answer politically, not answer legally. While the 25th 24601 Friday #68

From the article CozyMystery Friday #85

Sounds Rebl2 Friday #88

We're at the point that Shapiro is posturing for 2028. thought crime Friday #102

It's the other way around. Nt BootinUp Thursday #2

Biden will have to answer for not speaking out about Harris? Polybius Thursday #27

Shapiro will have to answer for not backing Biden. nt BootinUp Thursday #30

We all watched that disastrous debate last June. MuirHero Thursday #35

In politics people believe stupid shit all the time. BootinUp Thursday #36

One debate and Democrats start slitting each other's throats. travelingthrulife Friday #79

Welp DaBronx Friday #103

No JustAnotherGen Thursday #3

True she doesn't but agingdem Thursday #5

If I may respectfully rebut BaronChocula Thursday #13

The Reagan Model Computer JustAnotherGen Friday #58

My parents were Holocaust survivors.. agingdem Friday #69

I remember it too and that is not what was happening with Biden. travelingthrulife Friday #81

what angers me is not what Kamala knew about Biden's health but agingdem Thursday #6

Sadly much of her campaign staff Buzz cook Thursday #31

Protect Pres. Biden from what? Marthe48 Friday #84

Protect the Biden legacy Buzz cook Friday #105

I would prefer Shapiro run for Fetterman's senate seat Fiendish Thingy Thursday #4

Yes this is my hope too. biophile Thursday #8

Totally agree. While we all want more fight in our party putting something like this out to test the political wind Cheezoholic Thursday #11

Constitutional conventions can't change the constitution Fiendish Thingy Thursday #33

Shapiro or Conor Lamb... MuirHero Thursday #37

Shapiro is running for governor in 2026 Deminpenn Friday #59

I agree on all of your points FakeNoose Friday #62

Fetterman seems not to like his job as a senator Deminpenn Yesterday #106

someone is already moving into place for that MissKat Friday #72

This is why he's trashing Kamala. travelingthrulife Friday #80

I hope he drops off the map. He seems really sleazy to me. travelingthrulife Friday #82

Truth is, I would rather have Biden, Butterflylady Thursday #7

This is ridiculous. LisaM Thursday #9

According to the linked article, Harris said that in an interview before the election MichMan Thursday #12

Agreed BaronChocula Thursday #14

It is when the GOP is actively going after Democrats and liberals travelingthrulife Friday #83

YES x 1000 n/t BaronChocula Friday #92

Honey ReRe Friday #52

He works for ESPN, so a sports guy Deminpenn Friday #60

I figured he was into politics ReRe Friday #64

Mostly he covers the NBA and basketball at ESPN Deminpenn Yesterday #107

Kinda glad she didnt choose him at this point SSJVegeta Thursday #10

Which is probably why BaronChocula Thursday #16

Ironically it was Fetterman that recommended that Harris not select Shapiro fujiyamasan Thursday #17

Fetterman has gone completely off the rails. MuirHero Friday #40

Shame on Shapiro for even talking to Smith. Smith is an arrogant know-nothing asshole Wiz Imp Thursday #15

+1.! Another podcast buffoon loking to manufacture clickbait. And a politician stopdiggin Friday #47

My words to Democrats dredging up the past. Don't take the frickin bait. usonian Thursday #18

Damn, thought I liked Shapiro. elleng Thursday #19

This whole issue shpuldn't be published IbogaProject Thursday #21

It is going to be talked about with Kamala book tour coming up MichMan Thursday #28

Well, isn't this precious? ananda Thursday #22

He didn't do himself any favors. Emile Friday #97

I've never been that impressed with him Captain Zero Yesterday #109

Like you Gov, but no, just no mcar Thursday #23

Yeah okay, bro cool story Javaman Thursday #24

It's time to let the subject of Joe Biden go oberle Thursday #25

Agree - the 2024 election is water under the bridge. MuirHero Friday #42

well he's done LyfeTimeDem Thursday #26

The President isn't an Emperor - his party is totally free to reject his wish for a 2nd term and quite a few would argue Midwestern Democrat Friday #43

just refused to allow him a place in the primary .. ? stopdiggin Friday #48

Instead we have a brainless maniac sending in to Klarkashton Thursday #29

As 1 of the 92% GETTINGTIRED Thursday #32

The point of this article seems to be to rile up Democrats and get them fighting. Fuck that. Trueblue Texan Thursday #34

IMO a lot of people have to answer for trashing Joe Biden tavernier Thursday #38

Might want to check the entry on LOYALTY JCMach1 Friday #39

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read up and down the thread, my friend. finding a lot of support .. ? stopdiggin Friday #49

Well, I can cross Shapiro off the list of potential Dem Prez candidates I'd vote for spudspud Friday #45

This is helpful. iemanja Friday #46

What a jerk! eom BlueMTexpat Friday #50

I had him pegged from the start. ReRe Friday #51

Wait, when Republican's screw up really badly Buddyzbuddy Friday #53

What a self serving choie Friday #55

Glad to see he's focusing his attention toward the pressing matters. ForgoTheConsequence Friday #56

Oh, fuck him. Sanity Claws Friday #57

So the coastal elites have it figure out huh DemocracyWorks Friday #61

I don't consider JustAnotherGen Friday #65

Oh!.... electric_blue68 Friday #99

Josh Shapiro will have to answer for support of Gaza Genocide. Cobalt Violet Friday #63

He'll have to answer JustAnotherGen Friday #66

Ah, the under-the-bus throwing begins RVN VET71 Friday #67

Ok, Gov. Shapiro, you just ensured I won't vote for you in the primaries. lark Friday #70

Oh no, not another angry pointless blame & bash thread. Emile Friday #71

Well, if he thought this was a good way to the Presidential primary, he's wrong wolfie001 Friday #73

Taking bait like that is almost instantly disqualifying. Ursus Rex Friday #74

OMG STFU!!!!! Quit smearing Joe Biden! Clouds Passing Friday #75

I think 25A applies to all cabinet members bucolic_frolic Friday #76

It's slightly more nuanced than all cabinet members. In addition to the Vice President, the 25th Amendment refers to 24601 Yesterday #108

Well, markodochartaigh Friday #77

About...what? In her book she says nothing was wrong and had she seen anything.. CousinIT Friday #78

It should have been obvious Joe Biden wasn't up to serving another term. I thought Joe Biden doc03 Friday #86

What? WHY do you think she ran a campaign that "turned off many white voters?"....besides... electric_blue68 Friday #100

It was like how many hip hop, rap or whatever they are called entertainer's endorsements she could get. I don't give a doc03 Yesterday #110

Some Trump supporters like rap music AZProgressive 8 hrs ago #112

Republican voters don't hate wealthy entertainers, don't resent the wealthy, who are part of "Us" in Us vs Them. betsuni 7 hrs ago #113

I agree that I don't think entertainer endorsements for Harris or any other Presidential election hurt the Democrats AZProgressive 7 hrs ago #115

European right-wing populism happens in good economic times and bad, in countries with strong social safety nets, betsuni 6 hrs ago #116

We are lead by idiots AltairIV Friday #87

Don't like your tone, Gov. Shapiro. yorkster Friday #89

Good lord-- why do Democrats always do this circular firing squad thing? viva la Friday #90

Ah, what Democrats seem to do best. Trash each other. Vinca Friday #91

This message was self-deleted by its author Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday #93

Beating a dead horse Josh? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday #94

I'd tell him to "go play your God-Damn Monday morning quarterback somewhere else" chouchou Friday #95

Well, obviously he's upset that he wasn't picked for the VP spot. hamsterjill Friday #96

Men who write books after an election loss do not get this criticism mcar Friday #98

Never. And the snide criticism always begins before the book comes out and nobody's read it yet. betsuni 7 hrs ago #114

This really disappoints me.. Was it Kamala's Cha 5 hrs ago #117

STFU, dude - why don't you and Fetterman get a room already . . . . hatrack Friday #101

DU needs to consider that discussing the replacement of Biden needs to be treated like bringing up the 2016 campaign. marble falls Friday #104

Bash & blame punching down of the Democratic Party Emile 10 hrs ago #111