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Septua

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17. On the topic of legality
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 08:53 AM
Aug 15

I'm not questioning your opinion; I just can't comprehend the legaleeze.

https://www.cato.org/blog/nvidia-amds-deal-trump-administration-national-security-sale

It is, at best, questionable whether the reported agreement could withstand legal scrutiny. The text of Article I, Section 9 of the US Constitution—“No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State”—makes it clear that Congress cannot levy taxes on US exports. Thus, not only do the Trump administration’s actions appear to contravene the text of the Constitution, but they also raise a separation of powers issue, as it is the executive branch, not Congress, that is levying this tax.


That being said, it is unclear whether Nvidia and AMD are exporting their semiconductors from the United States. Both companies are “fabless” manufacturers, meaning that they design their chips but outsource their actual fabrication to TSMC. Though TSMC’s fabrication facility (“fab”) in Arizona has been operational since late 2024, reports suggest that it fabricates Nvidia and AMD chips other than the H20 and MI308, making it therefore likelier that both of these chips are fabricated in Taiwan. Were that indeed the case, and moreover were the chips to be exported to China from Taiwan (or any other foreign country, for that matter), the chips would be subject to the US government’s export controls under the Foreign Direct Product Rule, yet the case for a constitutional violation would seem weaker, as they are not “exported from any State.”


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So hildegaard28 Aug 14 #1
It's actually a tax that's passed on to the American people as the companies will hike prices to compensate. cstanleytech Aug 14 #4
I was hildegaard28 Aug 14 #5
Yes, I'm saying that the companies will offset anything that they "give" in the form of higher prices. cstanleytech Aug 14 #12
Add that one to the growing list mdbl Aug 15 #13
The WSJ funny enough is saying the same Libloom Aug 14 #6
If past is prologue... EarthFirst Aug 14 #2
If past is prologue the GOP should start squawking about govt price control! fascism! socialism! communism! Except wiggs Aug 14 #7
Trump's fire will go out of control. Then, look out. Charred remains. twodogsbarking Aug 14 #3
Remember when Republicans used to say we don't want the government picking winners and losers? (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 14 #8
They're waiting Trump out Mz Pip Aug 14 #9
Well tell them I've been saying this for 10 years and it hasn't happened yet mdbl Aug 15 #14
Really? they think he's going away MadameButterfly Aug 15 #16
"And which CEO's will survive his purge?" OldBaldy1701E Aug 15 #18
This is classic fascism DBoon Aug 14 #10
Trump is not the deal maker "Master" he claims to be. Septua Aug 14 #11
I'm sure it's illegal. We just don't have an ethical justice system any longer. mdbl Aug 15 #15
On the topic of legality Septua Aug 15 #17
Not to negate your response but the Cato Institute's mission is no laws or regulations mdbl Aug 15 #19
It was the first link that caught my eye on a search. Septua Aug 15 #20
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