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In reply to the discussion: Allies, in jab at Trump, threaten not to buy F-35s [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(168,802 posts)18. U.S. allies think twice about buying F-35s in response to Trump's antics
Why is the list of countries reassessing their F-35 purchases still growing? Because of the lack of international confidence in the American president.
U.S. allies think twice about buying F-35s in response to Trumpâs antics
— ((Wee G )) Wake Up Scotland (@chaillich.bsky.social) 2025-08-11T22:20:02.847Z
Why is the list of countries reassessing their F-35 purchases still growing? Because of the lack of international confidence in the American president. ð
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/f-35-fighter-jets-us-allies-switzerland-spain-france-rcna224350
The Trump administration recently let Swiss officials know that the cost of the planes will be more than previously estimated. The White House soon after hit Switzerland with harsh trade tariffs. As Politico reported, the developments are not sitting well in Bern.
.....Just as notable is the familiarity of the circumstances. A few days before the Politico report was published on developments in the Swiss capital, Reuters published a related article about a similar issue unfolding roughly 1,000 miles away.
......Usually, when theres political interest in F-35s, its related to Donald Trump and his apparent belief that the airplanes are literally invisible. But as traditional U.S. allies reassess their willingness to purchase the jets, its a lot less funny.
New York magazine had a memorable report on this in March:
Five months later, the problem appears to have gotten worse, not better.
An order for 36 F-35 jets may become a casualty of Donald Trumps trade war against Switzerland as political opposition to the multibillion-franc defense deal surges in Bern.
The backlash follows the U.S. presidents decision to hit Swiss exports with a 39 percent tariff the highest levied on any developed country and more than double the rate imposed on the European Union.
.....Just as notable is the familiarity of the circumstances. A few days before the Politico report was published on developments in the Swiss capital, Reuters published a related article about a similar issue unfolding roughly 1,000 miles away.
Spain is no longer considering the option of buying U.S.-made F-35 fighter jets and is choosing between European-made Eurofighter and the so-called Future Combat Air System (FCAS), a defense ministry spokesperson said on Wednesday.
The spokesperson was confirming an earlier report by El Pais newspaper that the government had shelved plans to buy the F-35, which is manufactured by U.S. aerospace giant Lockheed Martin.
......Usually, when theres political interest in F-35s, its related to Donald Trump and his apparent belief that the airplanes are literally invisible. But as traditional U.S. allies reassess their willingness to purchase the jets, its a lot less funny.
New York magazine had a memorable report on this in March:
Not so long ago, the F-35 fighter jet was the hottest ticket in the international arms market. ... Stealthy, supersonic, and able to both dogfight and strike targets on the ground, its arguably the most sophisticated weapon in the U.S. arsenal and undeniably the most sought-after. As nation after nation held competitions to choose their next frontline fighter, the F-35 came in and trounced its rivals time and again. ...
But then, earlier this month, something happened. One after another, nations that had signed up for the F-35 started voicing qualms. ... Nothing had changed about the planes performance. Its just that, in the eyes of some international customers, the F-35 cant fully be trusted anymore because of who is the commander-in-chief.
Five months later, the problem appears to have gotten worse, not better.
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it would be great if one of these nations played the same game as the orange asshole and said...
Javaman
Aug 14
#2
The tariffs on steel, aluminum, titanium?, etc.. has to hurt too. I can see no good from any tariffs, ever.
OverBurn
Aug 14
#20