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56. It could be nearly impossible for Pfizer or Moderna to complete new trials in time for the fall season.

Tue May 20, 2025, 04:11 PM

May 20

I know that the first round of covid testing was done in placebo control trials because my oldest child was in the Pfzier trial. Luckily my oldest got the vaccine in this trial. The new rules will make it very difficult to get updated for next fall

A new FDA mandate on Covid boosters means it could be nearly impossible for Pfizer or Moderna to complete new trials in time for the fall season.
— NBC News (@nbcnews.com) 2025-05-20T15:15:10Z

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-vaccines-fda-trials-delay-kids-adults-fall-rcna207718

Makary and Prasad said in a question and answer session later Tuesday that annual shots for healthy children and adults would no longer be routinely approved. They also suggested that the vaccines may not be updated each year.....

In briefing documents published earlier Tuesday, FDA staff wrote that updating the vaccines to more closely match currently circulating strains may “provide added benefit” in anticipation of an uptick in cases during the fall and winter.

The change means it will be near impossible for Pfizer and Moderna to complete the new trials in time for the fall season. Aside from running the trials, the drugmakers will still need to design the trials and enroll participants, which can also take several weeks or months.

The data would then need to be analyzed and signed off by the FDA.

I am over 65 and I am clearly high risk with COPD. I am worried that there will be no updated vaccine for any new variations this fall.

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FDA will limit Covid vaccines to people over 65 or at high risk of serious illness, leaders say [View all] swag May 20 OP

JFC orangecrush May 20 #1

Holy shit. The REAL death panels have arrived. Wingus Dingus May 20 #2

RFK and trump are assholes LetMyPeopleVote May 20 #3

Our government wants to murder us Mysterian May 20 #4

Oh, you need to thank all those who voted for Biden but not for Harris. elocs May 20 #18

Damn 3auld6phart May 20 #45

Also, too many Democrats were complacent & overconfident that nobody could steal an election elocs May 20 #51

Link to AP nitpicked May 20 #5

We don't need senior citizens or handicapped people.... Bayard May 20 #6

IMO The AP article that was posted actually makes the information more understandable. h2ebits May 20 #39

Raises more questions than answers. SunSeeker May 20 #43

But they're saying the vaccine would still be available to people over 65. ShazzieB May 20 #47

The Pisswig wants to break his own record dweller May 20 #7

What about health care providers? They can't get it, either? My daughter has been required to get a vaccine every fall deurbano May 20 #8

It seems to me that they would come under the heading of "at high risk of serious illness." MLWR May 20 #9

They will find a way to say "It wouldn't be serious"... if you kill off or get more health workers to quit even better JT45242 May 20 #30

As a caregiver to a vulnerable, aging parent ... I think I'm in a similar boat? IIRC, it actually moved me up the list Alice B. May 20 #10

That was my situation, too! I was prioritized as a caregiver for my disabled adult daughter. deurbano May 20 #20

I may be somewhat slow but am I overlooking when this takes effect? Alice B. May 20 #26

I'm not seeing it either. One thing I did see is that non-seniors with certain underlying conditions (a very expansive deurbano May 20 #49

Good idea -- thank you!!! Alice B. May 20 #60

This is bullshit angrychair May 20 #11

Who the f-word gets to decide who's at risk? cab67 May 20 #12

"asthma, diabetes, cancer and obesity, in addition to pregnant women" IronLionZion May 20 #17

If obesity qualifies, 40% of adults are obese, 20% of the children. I qualify because I am old. n/t elocs May 20 #25

evidently - cab67 May 20 #29

and my 9-year old daughter? cab67 May 20 #27

It's pretty shitty of them to deny vaccines to those who want it IronLionZion May 20 #35

Exactly. What happened to "people need to be free to decide for themselves?" tanyev May 20 #58

That just reminded me that there is a new combo vaccine for flu and COVID that is supposed to deurbano May 20 #36

I'm really looking forward to that combo one. Fuckwads better approve it! SunSeeker May 20 #48

We just got new boosters (6 months after the last ones) because we will be traveling. My husband and I are over 65, so deurbano May 20 #31

"...oh, and billionaires and their families of any age." C Moon May 20 #13

I expect this decision could be reversed after a large enough 'campaign contribution' groundloop May 20 #14

This will kill people. Botany May 20 #15

For non-high risk groups, what does this precisely exactly mean? That it will be illegal for a healthcare provider ( progree May 20 #16

Welp, it's been nice knowing you folks. LudwigPastorius May 20 #19

They are so full of shit, they sceam and yell about their freedumbs and gubbmint mandates ToxMarz May 20 #21

Oh well. So long, it's been good to know ya... FailureToCommunicate May 20 #22

this years winter will be bad nt Javaman May 20 #23

I've gotten my shot every year EnergizedLib May 20 #24

There's going to be vaccine tourism to Canada. poli-junkie May 20 #28

What about Long COVID? What about newer more deadly strains? crimycarny May 20 #32

Rationing - G.O.P. style BoRaGard May 20 #33

GOP are the real big government authoritarians IronLionZion May 20 #37

Fuck this shit. (nt) Paladin May 20 #34

So much for herd immunity. littlemissmartypants May 20 #38

I don't think you can get herd immunity with a virus that keeps mutating womanofthehills May 22 #62

You certainly can't get it without vaccines. I think we're talking about two different types of herd immunity anyway. ❤️ littlemissmartypants May 22 #63

What is the reasoning (?) behind this? Katinfl May 20 #40

Yale News - " Yale study reveals insights into post-vaccine heart inflammation cases" womanofthehills May 21 #61

This sounds like the requirements Blue Full Moon May 20 #41

OK I'm over 65 so I can get a vaccine. Will I be able to afford it. flashman13 May 20 #42

Why have a Covid vaccine if not available to all is my question. riversedge May 20 #44

Good question. Maybe RFK could tell us. flashman13 May 20 #55

Thus ensuring that we can't achieve herd immunity Picaro May 20 #46

Means two things to me. First, we need a STUPID VACCINE, Second, there will be a black market in vaccines. usonian May 20 #50

As someone who is over 65 and immunocompromised, I guess I'm still eligible. greatauntoftriplets May 20 #52

Vaccine bromeando May 20 #53

Because of course if you are under 65 with Covid, you have nothing to worry about, and if you are JohnSJ May 20 #54

It could be nearly impossible for Pfizer or Moderna to complete new trials in time for the fall season. LetMyPeopleVote May 20 #56

One of the most compelling reasons to leave the country. Fuck this shit. The precedent it creates is beyond disturbing. Karasu May 20 #57

He wants to kill more Americans Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 20 #59