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In reply to the discussion: Trump's Qatari 747 may need fighter escorts to serve as Air Force One [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(163,835 posts)18. This plane is a white elephant that is too big
This plane has been on the market for five years and there are no buyers. This plane uses a ton of fuel and can only land on special runways. trump is bailing out a member of the royal family by taking a plane that is not marketable.
"Why The Qataris Are Happy To Dump Their 747 On Trump"
— Zach Everson (@zacheverson.com) 2025-05-15T17:36:13.733Z
"There may be a simpler rationale: they just donât want it anymore."
@jeremybogaisky.bsky.social for @forbes.com
Why The Qataris Are Happy To Dump Their 747 On Trump"
"There may be a simpler rationale: they just dont want it anymore."
"There may be a simpler rationale: they just dont want it anymore."
Link to tweet
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2025/05/14/qatar-747-trump
The royal family of Qatar, owner of one of the largest private jet fleets in the world, has been quietly getting rid of some of its biggest planes. It may have found the perfect taker for one of its Boeing 747 jumbo jets in President Donald Trump, who has been frustrated with the multi-year delays in replacing Air Force One.,....
The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatars rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.
Qatar, which has given away another blinged-out 747 and may have mothballed two more, epitomizes the fading demand for these huge, fuel-guzzling, highly personalized airplanes. There arent many who want to buy them, and many of the governments and royal families who own them have been trying to ditch them over the past decade.
Qatar, like many modern states, is shifting toward leaner, more versatile aircraft, which offer better economics and more discreet presence for official travel, Linus Bauer, managing director of the Dubai-based aviation consulting firm BAA & Partners, told Forbes. Giving the plane to Trump would be a creative disposal strategy that marks a farewell to a bygone model of geopolitical theater in the skies......
Beyond poor fuel efficiency, large ostentatious planes are a security risk, notes Richard Aboulafia, an aerospace consultant with Aerodynamic Advisory. These things are big targets. And bigger planes can only land on longer runways, limiting their usage. There are a lot more airports you can get into if you have a narrowbody, and many more still if you have a traditional business jet, he said......
Giving the 747-8 to the U.S. would also allow the Qataris to avoid maintenance costs that are only getting higher with the 747 fleet shrinking worldwide and fewer mechanics available who know how to work on them, said John Goglia, a former airline mechanic and member of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. The 2020 sales brochure noted that the plane was due for a landing gear overhaul in 2024 and a 12-year check in 2027. A check in which the airplane and engines are taken apart, typically carried out every six to 12 years, can take months to complete and cost millions of dollars. The numbers are staggering, said Goglia.
The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatars rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.
Qatar, which has given away another blinged-out 747 and may have mothballed two more, epitomizes the fading demand for these huge, fuel-guzzling, highly personalized airplanes. There arent many who want to buy them, and many of the governments and royal families who own them have been trying to ditch them over the past decade.
Qatar, like many modern states, is shifting toward leaner, more versatile aircraft, which offer better economics and more discreet presence for official travel, Linus Bauer, managing director of the Dubai-based aviation consulting firm BAA & Partners, told Forbes. Giving the plane to Trump would be a creative disposal strategy that marks a farewell to a bygone model of geopolitical theater in the skies......
Beyond poor fuel efficiency, large ostentatious planes are a security risk, notes Richard Aboulafia, an aerospace consultant with Aerodynamic Advisory. These things are big targets. And bigger planes can only land on longer runways, limiting their usage. There are a lot more airports you can get into if you have a narrowbody, and many more still if you have a traditional business jet, he said......
Giving the 747-8 to the U.S. would also allow the Qataris to avoid maintenance costs that are only getting higher with the 747 fleet shrinking worldwide and fewer mechanics available who know how to work on them, said John Goglia, a former airline mechanic and member of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. The 2020 sales brochure noted that the plane was due for a landing gear overhaul in 2024 and a 12-year check in 2027. A check in which the airplane and engines are taken apart, typically carried out every six to 12 years, can take months to complete and cost millions of dollars. The numbers are staggering, said Goglia.
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Trump's Qatari 747 may need fighter escorts to serve as Air Force One [View all]
mahatmakanejeeves
May 15
OP
Why can't the fighter jet escort planes for the Palace in the Sky - 747 Fit For A King,....
magicarpet
May 15
#7
And the media repeating that there is uncertainty about the legality of accepting this
NH Ethylene
May 15
#14
Turning Qatari 747 into Air Force One could cost $1 billion and take years, experts say
littlemissmartypants
May 15
#5