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red dog 1

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21. I think a manager betting on games is worse than a player taking steroids, although I don't condone that either.
Tue May 13, 2025, 11:53 PM
May 13

Barry Bonds won three well-deserved MVP Awards (1990, 1992, 1993), five years before he started taking steroids in 1998.

However, in his ten years of eligibility for the Hall of Fame (2013-2022), he fell short of the 75% of the votes needed for induction.
(In 2022, he got 66% of the votes required)

IMHO, Bonds deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, despite the BALCO scandal and his subsequent conviction (later overturned on appeal)

In 2001, after the 9/11 attacks, MLB Commissioner Bud Selig postponed all games through September 16.
When MLB games were resumed on September 17, 2001, Barry Bonds resumed his chase of Mark McGuire's home run record of 70 and broke the record on October 7 by hitting his 73rd home run.
In doing so, Barry Bonds did more to help America get over the widespread grief from the 9/11 attacks than anyone, imo.
For that alone, he should be in the Hall of Fame.



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No Hall of Fame for Pete. marble falls May 13 #1
I am mixed on this topic. Balatro May 13 #14
Sure. Why not? Nothing matters. Bok_Tukalo May 13 #2
It won't matter in the least bit to Rose. n/t elocs May 14 #27
Good grief. Got more rules than Catholic schools. twodogsbarking May 13 #3
lol. They can't hurt the integrity of the game once they're gone? unblock May 13 #4
Cheaters angrychair May 13 #5
Cheaters are not prospering after their deaths because, well, they're dead. n/t elocs May 14 #28
They will, indirectly angrychair May 14 #36
My point being, and it's sad I need to explain it, they are DEAD. n/t elocs May 14 #38
Yes, obviously angrychair May 14 #39
Yes, other people will profit. ShazzieB May 14 #41
As a Cincinnati Native, let me say: maxsolomon May 13 #6
I felt this was coming after Rose's death... appmanga May 13 #7
Fuck Pete Rose! Tarzanrock May 13 #8
ha ha that's pretty funny gopiscrap May 13 #10
Don't stand on the baseline, dimwit! JustABozoOnThisBus May 13 #11
"If I had played my career hitting singles like Pete Rose, I'd wear a dress" Tarzanrock May 13 #12
Mantle? Are you sure you're not quoting Dennis Rodman (Trump ambassador to NK) JustABozoOnThisBus May 13 #13
Dennis Rodman was always a terrible hitter jmowreader May 13 #16
Unless the veteran's comittee Blackjackdavey May 13 #9
"Mr. Trump. Please make America Great Again. Pete Rose" Tarzanrock May 13 #15
I doubt Pete Rose will actually get elected jmowreader May 13 #17
Regarding this BumRushDaShow May 13 #18
Recommended. H2O Man May 13 #19
Well... at this point in time, I agree with all that. They both have paid a high price. Jack Valentino May 13 #20
I think a manager betting on games is worse than a player taking steroids, although I don't condone that either. red dog 1 May 13 #21
Always wondered if Giamatti had evidence that Rose bet against the Reds AdamGG May 13 #22
A little shoeless joe history Roricka May 14 #23
interesting first post Skittles May 14 #31
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 14 #40
Trump wanted this. And MLB made it happen. BadgerMom May 14 #24
That was my first thought BumRushDaShow May 14 #26
Guilt Godot51 May 14 #25
Here in WI I became a Reds fan in '63 when I was just 11. elocs May 14 #29
Right when I read your post BumRushDaShow May 14 #30
If Rose is inducted will the ceremony be sponsered by DraftKings? retread May 14 #32
Kinda over when they pass away? Brainfodder May 14 #33
Why not. 'Tis the zeitgeist of the time to pardon everyone. n/t malthaussen May 14 #34
Since corruption is now back in fashion, this makes perfect sense. Borogove May 14 #35
Well, MLB has deals with gambling interests. They can't have it both ways. n/t FSogol May 14 #37
Cheaters never DiverDave May 14 #42
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