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Cirsium

(2,759 posts)
48. OK
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:12 PM
Apr 2025

I don't know what that tells us. For example, Vance said "well they might not actually be eating the cats and dogs in Springfield, BUT..." and that didn't change any Trump supporters' opinion about it. In other words, the interviewer didn't win even when Vance admitted it wasn't literally true. It doesn't matter if they are lying about the details, there is a bigger message that is working. "These immigrants are different, strange, they are a threat, and Democrats are coddling them and defending them and have some nefarious purpose for doing so." Saying that they aren't actually eating pets, or don't actually have "MS 13" tattooed on their hand is completely ineffective. It is all a distraction, and it works.

I think they see the lying to reporters as a way to "own" the reporter and to own us. They are right about that. They win those transactions. By "win" I mean they buttress their base of support and they get the reactions from us and from the press that they want and that they can use against us.

We debunk all of Trump's lies, the 20,000 or whatever we are up to now, but we fail to successfully challenge the main narrative. To do so would require a much more aggressive and radical approach.

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Rated: Pants on 🔥 underpants Apr 2025 #1
too many are falling for the trap cadoman Apr 2025 #23
Seeing it all over X underpants Apr 2025 #32
It is obvious MS-13 was photoshopped. Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 2025 #2
Also, the color of the letters 'M S 13' are black, digitally 'typed' over Jrose Apr 2025 #6
wait, he's claiming that those letters and numbers are really a part of the photo???? Javaman Apr 2025 #7
"He should have just used his sharpie." Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 2025 #10
Yep. He sure is. Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #36
I know, right? 😄 electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #53
More than obvious....it's fucking LAUGHABLE. Hell a ten year old with a paint program Bengus81 Apr 2025 #49
I could do better in PowerPoint Luvcatz14 Apr 2025 #51
Yup! 😄 Its Only funny bc of how badly it's done! electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #54
The video of him meeting with Senator van Hollen clearly showed no such MS-13 tattoo. TheRickles Apr 2025 #62
Moran is being so deferential, apologetically trying to say Trump is...go anead, Terry, just say it...A FUCKING LIAR! sop Apr 2025 #3
I give Moran credit for explicitly telling Trump he was wrong Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #37
OMFG, he's so fucking delusional and dumb!!! LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #4
Moran vs. Moron. Itchinjim Apr 2025 #5
And he had a cook book for how to prepare Dog and Cat Tacos. mackdaddy Apr 2025 #8
I see it differently. Janeyre Apr 2025 #9
Yep. Moran pushed back while other journalists have refused to do so. Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #38
Wow k_buddy762 Apr 2025 #11
The idiots "who would believe it" are the same ones who elected him in the first place BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #12
But that's what Trump is saying Prairie Gates Apr 2025 #14
But Trump is an idiot k_buddy762 Apr 2025 #19
Huh? Prairie Gates Apr 2025 #20
I don't take him seriously at all k_buddy762 Apr 2025 #22
Approximately 1/3 of the population of this country not only take what Trump says Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #40
Who I've called The Crazy Third for decades. rickyhall Apr 2025 #50
What QANON and Pizzagate do to a populace. SouthBayDem Apr 2025 #25
Well, you may have an argument about whether Trump is actually human or not Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #39
My God Jughead Apr 2025 #13
My CAT could do a better photoshop job! Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #41
Just as DJT falsely accused the Central Park Five of Jrose Apr 2025 #15
After watching that interview, all I can say is Ray Bruns Apr 2025 #16
Looks like a staffer got his hands on MS Paint from a Windows 95 machine. Torchlight Apr 2025 #17
Photo-shopped. And a clumsy job of it, too. marble falls Apr 2025 #18
A Simple solution to this Hieronymus Phact Apr 2025 #21
And his face. Justice matters. Apr 2025 #43
The problem is Hieronymus Phact Apr 2025 #45
The stupid, it burns. mwb970 Apr 2025 #24
I had never heard of you ... dweller Apr 2025 #26
Serious question. What is the technical term for the overlays? John1956PA Apr 2025 #27
Photoshop or not Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #42
So stupid Lemon Lyman Apr 2025 #28
To Contenue... multigraincracker Apr 2025 #29
Any German speakers here? There are so many times I wonder if German was his 1st language, tanyev Apr 2025 #30
DFW is living in Germany at the moment and is fluent (his wife is German) BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #31
And trump has " MASTER PUTIN" tattooed on his ass. republianmushroom Apr 2025 #33
Trump won that interaction Cirsium Apr 2025 #34
Nope. Even many of his supporters know that the MS13 isn't tattooed directly on the guy's hand Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #44
I doubt that very much Cirsium Apr 2025 #46
Here's an article from Breitbart and the author clearly acknowledges MS13 isn't tattooed dirctly n the hand Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #47
OK Cirsium Apr 2025 #48
Yes, but, Trump is entitled to alternate facts /s Oneironaut Apr 2025 #35
Trump knows they are photoshopped, he's just gaslighting. It's what he does, he never breaks character. Blues Heron Apr 2025 #52
Politifact- President Donald Trump says Kilmar Abrego Garcia has "'MS-13' on his knuckles." Pants on Fire! LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #55
Everything that comes outta his mouth BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #56
I wish someone would ask the orange Hitler if would swear on the Bible he is 100% sure that it was Kilmars kimbutgar Apr 2025 #57
He didn't even swear on the bibles presented to him BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #58
And I have to wonder how those MAGAloon christofascists still worship this false prophet kimbutgar Apr 2025 #59
He unleashed their hate and anger BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #60
As Bugs Bunny used to say: Fiendish Thingy Apr 2025 #61
Trump is lying LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #63
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