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IbogaProject

(4,698 posts)
7. We are decades past only "consuming less"
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:53 PM
Apr 2025

Jimmy Carter had a comprehensive plan to get us off of imported oil by the year 2000 using only 1970s technology and maybe some estimates of likely efficiency improvements. Now were are almost 100 ppm of CO2 higher then we were then. This won't be incremental, it is leading to more week to week variability. This includes about 3 high temp records per 1 low temp record, but the pace of record temps either way has been increasing. The amount of water in the air is increasing, and the combination of heat with humidity is what will start killing many people every summer. Even here where we have Air Conditioning, if the power goes out it could turn deadly fast. It is now time to attempt things like this. I personally believe we need to take every nuclear powered ship and start building up the arctic and antarctic ice covers to try and increase our planets reflectivity. And the geologic records shows that rapid climate shifts go exponentially and usually happen over just 10-15 years, if we've begun a switch, which the increase in warming indicates it is about to get very serious. And this is happening far faster than previous switches at the start or end of recent ice ages. Our plants like trees won't be able to settle into new climate zones fast enough.

We haven't been above 400 ppm for about 15 million years, humans and our food sources aren't evolved to handle what is coming in our lifetimes. https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/ The average temperature worldwide was 10 to 20 degrees warmer overall, with less variations, just very hot or hot all the time.

Smoking with a tracheotomy Ponietz Apr 2025 #1
I actually saw a patient in a wheelchair outside a dialysis center doing just that. Freaked me out. Silent Type Apr 2025 #10
That's an even more perfect metaphor thought crime Apr 2025 #11
I remember that Figarosmom Apr 2025 #39
You win the trenchant accurate wit award! NNadir Apr 2025 #56
You taught me well, professor Ponietz Apr 2025 #58
Mr. Burns tried something like this once... Earl_from_PA Apr 2025 #2
My first thought as well. underpants Apr 2025 #9
Maggie put a stop to it. (eom) StevieM Apr 2025 #37
:D "Owls will defean us with incessant hooting!" C Moon Apr 2025 #38
How about "pollute less"? Is that so hard? C_U_L8R Apr 2025 #3
We may be past the point melm00se Apr 2025 #6
So? Cirsium Apr 2025 #59
We are decades past only "consuming less" IbogaProject Apr 2025 #7
I don't remember if I suggested in a post waaay back (for me, been here ? anout 2+ - 3 yrs).... electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #14
Fucking Reagan taking down the WH Solar Panels...we really could have had a head start at all this! electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #15
I'm kind of old angryxyouth Apr 2025 #19
There were Experiments with solar panels angryxyouth Apr 2025 #27
They were thermal (hot water), not photovoltaic, but they were still panels. sl8 Apr 2025 #29
Ooops, ty for the correction. I forgot about the flurocarbons. electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #32
Yes. Igel Apr 2025 #25
Send the Pisswig , couchf'r and e skum (N-ZA) dweller Apr 2025 #4
... SheltieLover Apr 2025 #13
❤️ littlemissmartypants Apr 2025 #44
What could possibly go wrong? Shipwack Apr 2025 #5
I'm sure we can invent a space-based vacuum cleaner to collect all these particles ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2025 #12
Yeah, if only there were some kind of protective layer around the Earth, maybe made of ozone... forgotmylogin Apr 2025 #40
Or pre-apocalyptic. RandomNumbers Apr 2025 #62
1816 - The Year Without Summer speak easy Apr 2025 #8
Once you start spraying the stratosphere you can never cease SamuelTheThird Apr 2025 #16
Well, you can but you remove the protection. Igel Apr 2025 #26
They've covered this in sci fi movies iemanja Apr 2025 #17
What could possibly go wrong? Grumpy Old Guy Apr 2025 #18
I'm sure that this will work perfectly with no unforeseen consequences. Orrex Apr 2025 #20
Men that play god because they haven't trashed the planet enough. xuplate Apr 2025 #21
How about putting less targets for the Sun's infrared rays to hit and heat up and then releasing that .. Botany Apr 2025 #22
Great...what could,possibly go wrong?! PortTack Apr 2025 #23
Who has the big bucks contract? cbabe Apr 2025 #24
Somebody, please tell me that a full scale version of this wouldn't accidentally destroy the ozone layer. LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #28
"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature!"-wisdom from an old margarine commercial Midnight Writer Apr 2025 #30
B.S. If everyone switched to a plant based diet we would reduce the poison that is killing us all Bread and Circuses Apr 2025 #31
Then there would also be less soloar energy for photosynthesis AdamGG Apr 2025 #33
I'm doing what I can. I have a Rivian and exceptionally efficient when driven carefully. truthisfreedom Apr 2025 #34
The ending of the Dinosaurs series by Jim Henson. I couldn't find full episode, but it is worth viewing. LT Barclay Apr 2025 #35
❤️ littlemissmartypants Apr 2025 #45
We think this will work. patphil Apr 2025 #36
To me, this means that those who fought tooth-and-nail to deny global warming, now believe it is a problem. C Moon Apr 2025 #41
Project ULTRON - "I see a suit of armour around the world..." Layzeebeaver Apr 2025 #42
Rather than remotely change our unsustainable economic systems to save the planet, let's spend money Karasu Apr 2025 #43
Exactly. ... littlemissmartypants Apr 2025 #46
And meanwhile, beg people to have MORE BABIES!!!! RandomNumbers Apr 2025 #61
Eliminating commuting and curtailing jet travel would cut carbon emissions by between 25 to 40%. Hugin Apr 2025 #47
there is a Simpsons clip for everything... Javaman Apr 2025 #48
Are we sure the trump boys aren't involved in this? Paladin Apr 2025 #49
instead of tackling the problem Conjuay Apr 2025 #50
Couldn't we just put tarriffs on sun light. twodogsbarking Apr 2025 #51
England doesn't get much sun anyway orangecrush Apr 2025 #53
What could possibly go wrong? orangecrush Apr 2025 #52
This is the exact plot line to the movie Snowpiercer Bristlecone Apr 2025 #54
The aerosol idea simply is stupid -misanthroptimist Apr 2025 #55
I am very skeptical of techno-fixes like this where unintended consequences have not been thoroughly vetted. Martin68 Apr 2025 #57
I keep thinking this is an April Fools joke. Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2025 #60
Reflecting sunlight won't do anything positive Nigrum Cattus Apr 2025 #63
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